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Could be. I'm on android also... are you guys using chrome?
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Bro, paste the link. Leave the cursor at the end of the link. Then press the return button on your phone or keyboard and it embeds the link.
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Yeah, I had the same thought before. And I think it's to accommodate the team's travel back to the states. It basically gives them and extra half day to get back.
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Carful, the resident experts on scatter plots will be quick to tell you that the effectiveness of play action has nothing to do with formation or frequency and effectiveness of the running game. Who cares if James Cook is leading the team in touches and total yards from scrimmage? Couldn't possibly be helping Josh in any tangible way! But seriously, ponder that. Diggs is on pace for a career year in receiving yards, and he's #2 in production just slightly behind Cook. And I don't care what anyone says, play action from under center simulates the run much better than from shotgun, and holds the illusion of the hand off much longer, giving the receivers more time to get down field while the defense is triggering to run keys.
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Rousseau Injured Foot / Uniforms for Sunday (Question)
Motorin' replied to Never NEVER Give-up's topic in The Stadium Wall
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Check out the stat line in all 3 of the Chiefs Super Bowls. They were incredibly balanced in their two victories. While Mahomes threw 49 times in their loss to the Bucs, yet only managed to score 9 points.
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The Allen-Diggs Relationship in Decline?
Motorin' replied to hondo in seattle's topic in The Stadium Wall
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I think it's fair to say the Bills are easing Kincaid into the offense. But he is second on the team in receptions, with just one more than Davis. So it looks more like a 1 & 2a/2b approach than 1a/1b. At least from a target perspective. And sure Kincaid's 6.6 yards per catch is a far stretch from what you want in a #2 receiver. But his 88% catch percentage is... something. He's on pace for 72 targets. This could expand in the second half of the season as the rookie gets more comfortable. What I haven't noticed many people point out is that Cook is on par in pass targets with Davis, and is actually doubling the total touches that Diggs has, while producing slightly more yards. The offense runs through Cook and Diggs now. With Davis and Kincaid potentially playing the 2a/2b role.
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Remember, remember the 7th of November!
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We ran the ball 18 times for 125 yards against the Steelers. The RB's averaged nearly 5 yards per carry. And completed 20 passes for 424 yards and 4 TD's. That's not a very good example of not running the ball often or effectively. This Bills offense needs balance. It needs production from the running backs to take pressure off of Josh Allen's shoulders. And that's exactly what has propelled this team to back to back to back 28 points victories. I don't know about you, but I'd love to reduce the amount of contact Josh takes every single season moving forward. That's how we have him for another 10 years instead of him retiring in his early 30's. In any event, the point of the offense isn't for play action to be effective. It's to control and win games. Sure we're going to be able to blow out bad teams doing whatever we want. But against really good teams, in the playoffs and Super Bowl, we are going to need to control the line of scrimmage and run the ball effectively. And the better this Bills team is at running the ball, the better it will be for Josh and the passing game. I don't care how many times people say "you don't have to run the ball for play action to be effective." It's a stupid point to make. Unless we're playing a team with a terrible defense in February, if we can't run the ball effectively, it's going to be a very long day for our QB.
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Aside from the fact that teams always run the ball to some degree (there's never been an NFL game with fewer than 5 rushing attempts by each team) it wouldn't be surprising if play action is effective when your running game wasn't. That means the defense is keyed in on stuffing your running game. And a defense focused on defending the run would be suspectable to play action. Not that you ever want your run game to be ineffective. You want to be able to run the ball effectively. And for all the guys saying you don't have to run at all, you don't want Josh Allen passing 50-60 times per game while running your rb's 9 times. That's how you lose to the Jacksonville Jaguars 6-9. And another thing to ponder. The Chiefs won the Super Bowl last year with Mahomes throwing 27 times for 180 yards while the Chiefs ran 26 times for 170 yards. I guess Andy Reid didn't get the memo that you don't have to run.
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There's a problem when people confuse probability with the ability to predict the future, and modeling with reality... What's funny in the context of this debate, there's never been a game in NFL history where a team hasn't run the ball. Not once. So the idea that "you don't have to run the ball for play action to be effective" has never been tested. Not in a single game in NFL history.
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It's impossible for the analytics to show that teams don't have to run the ball at all for play action to work. Why? Because there's never been a season of NFL football where any team has ran the ball less than 18 times per game over the course of a season. The conditions for the claim you guys are sticking to have never existed. Teams have to prepare to defend the run because teams run the ball. And play action passing work because defenses prepare to defend the run. And teams have to prepare for the run because all teams run the ball...
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But we're taking to the same people who proclaimed for three years that it was mathematically impossible for Josh Allen to be an accurate passer.
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OMG, these people who think math is the real world, instead of an approximate of specific circumstances at specific moments. Probably still the people that insist math is broken because Josh Allen was able to complete mor Ethan 50% of his passes.
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Byeeee
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Tell me you don't know how to interpret statistics without telling me you don't know how to interpret statistics. And there's a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow too!
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A perfect QB rating is 158.333 repeating of course.
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Oh ok then. So if the Bills line up in shotgun 100% of the time, never run the ball once, the play cation would be just as effective as lining up under center 50% of the time and having a pass / run ratio of 50 / 50? Your scatter plot reminds me of the study Purdue pharma used to insist that less than 1% of patients will become addicted to oxycontin. Who needs context when you have maths?
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There's a world of difference when the Bills utilize play action from under center when they have a viable run game that the defense has to worry about, versus never lining up under center and half assing play action out of shotgun to a running back the defense doesn't respect.
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Chew on that sandwich alright! 😂
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Rich stadium...Old timers question
Motorin' replied to Joe Ferguson forever's topic in The Stadium Wall
Ever get wasted and explore the giant hole??? -
Kincaid's on pace for 65 receptions. And his targets will likely increase as the season goes on.
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Turns out we have one in the cupboard.