Motorin'

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Don't think he represents the billion dollar corporation that used Marc Miller's likeness to advertise their product.

Looks like it took a solid 3rd round pick.

You know what's funny, the name of the show Marc was featured on was called "George Michael's Sports Machine." I think Marc misspoke and called him Gary instead of George. And I'm personally interested in it because i work in advertising / video production. I see what people get paid to appear in ads, and I license video clips all the time... How much do you think the Bills paid their ad firm to produce that commercial?

The Bills have streamed that video millions of times this year. His clip certainly had value, or why else would they have chosen to use it in the 30 secs they dedicated to advertising? I'm really interested in finding out how they aquired it, and if Mark had signed his rights away. If he did, he has no ground to stand on. But if he didn't sign his rights away to the original news broadcast, then he's entitled to a usage fee. And believe me, the fee is always way higher after it's been viewed by a mass market.

People apparently love excuses to act like *****.

I don't think there's much strategy going on here, just a guy thinking out loud on Twitter.

I think the Bills should work something out with him. I don't understand why people in Buffalo can't allow other people's grievances to be heard without this "your dead to me" attitude.

The Bills allow their logo to be used on fan sites bc it promotes their brand. It's organic advertising for them. They made that decision. Pinto Ron agreed to be filmed for the NBC spot. Does that mean that Pinto cars can take his face and slap it on their ads? Mark Miller agreed to be filmed for a sports show, that doesn't necessarily mean it's ok for a corporation to repurpose his face for their advertising purposes without his consent.

I think the Bills spend hundreds of thousands of dollars a year advertising, maybe a few million. And they do one big 30 second commercial each year that they use to sell Tix and merch. That commercial used Mark Miller this year. Unless Mark Miller signed his rights to his likeness away at the time of the original taping, the Bills should license his likeness if they want to use it in advertising.

So, if you got interviewed by a news channel about your favorite beer, and later on your face was on bill boards promoting that beer all across the country, you don't think you own the rights to your own image?

The video itself does, but unless he signed his rights away, he still owns the rights to his likeness and voice. I also don't get the animosity here. The Bills are a billion dollar company and used the guy in a commercial to sell a couple million dollars worth of tickets.

It depends, if he signed a release at the time of filming, that release likely granted the company rights to his image and voice in perpetuity. They would also likely have the right to license it. But a lot of news channels don't use releases for "news" bc their footage is covered under the first amendment ... If the company that originally filmed didn't use a release that granted them the rights to the footage and the rights to assign it, Mark has a case. No it's not. You can't use news footage without paying the company that filmed it. And it costs a pretty penny. But there's a difference between news footage and using a person's likeness and personality to sell in advertising.

He's totally right. You can't use someone's voice and image in advertising without licensing those rights. He's going to get paid, and he should. That's how the world works.

If I'm Dawson Knox, I'm spending the off season with one of those ball machines, taking 1000 reps a day. He has the potential to be special.

Which leads me to believe it's a mental ) concentration thing rather than a "bad hands" thing. Guys with bad hands don't make those catches.

People need to put the Blame Thrower down. Milano and the defense had a bad game bc the Patriots game plan was exceptional.

Can you share a link with me on how to do that?

Josh had a 102 QB rating against the Pats last night. He's getting better, in fact his QB ranking is 25% better than last year while only throwing 3 INT's in the last 11 games.

I'm pretty sure they started fighting about whose fault the loss was and who needs to be fired...

Why can't we have both?

Totally, what reason is there to believe that the Front Office can strengthen the roster in an off season through draft and Free Agency? And you are so right, we know exactly what Josh Allen is, and there's no reason to believe that anyone at the QB position can change and grow... No evidence that can happen... Once a Wyoming QB always a Wyoming QB.

So you don't think it's likely the Bills will improve as much next year as they did this year? We're in position to add talent through the draft and FA, ton of cap space. Are contributing rookies will have a whole off season of NFL strength and conditioning, Oliver, D Johnson, Songletary, Knox... And Josh will have an entire off season to build on his improvements this year. But no chance of being better next year, huh?

Neither side of the ball was horrible. Both sides could have played better, and certain things, like the play calling on the back to back 3&outs drove me crazy, but they were in that game until the very last play.

The game day experience is ruined for me in large part by the pervasive negative attitude I've described in this post. I'm calling out a type of fan behavior, exhibited on this forum, that I despise. It's the behavior that turns me off, in the context of where the Bills are and where there's good reason to think they are going. I wish there were 2 game day threads. One to talk about what the Bills need to do to win, and one for posters to talk about who needs to be blamed and fired... I'd always post in the solution focused thread. But clicking through page after page of raw hatred just makes me want to leave and stop communicating on the forum with fellow Bills fans.