Motorin'

Never would have thought of that! But for real, it's become a bit of a pattern the last few years. The Bills start out somewhat lackadaisical with ball security. And as the season processes, they take it more seriously.

He was asked that exact question in his post game presser. He said 'cause there were giant D lineman going like this' and he held his hands over his head like a big freaking tree. Lol. I am GROOT.

Jesus, just noticed that too. That could have ended Prince's season. Terrible block to his knee while engaged.

Lol, I didn't read it too closely. I just wanted to attribute the win to a can of spinach.

Omg. Byrant not only occupies 3 of their blockers, but he drives Richard back to the 8 yard line and pancakes him. Holy *****.

He's worried about 5 or 6 loses across 3 seasons. Why wouldn't he only see doom and gloom?

You apparently missed all of my sarcastic posts thrown at the negative Nancy's in the first half of the game day thread.

McD ate his spinach!

I'm pretty sure I remember New England doing this years ago. The Browns did it last year: https://thecomeback.com/nfl/browns-defenders-push-austin-ekeler-into-the-end-zone-to-get-the-ball-back.html

Absolutely. It's happened before.

"That's all I can stands, 'cause I can't stands no more!"

You don't know that... Maybe one of us is McBeane's secret burner TBD account.

Austin will get called up to replace Crowder, imo. Hodgins will o my get the call if McKenzie can't go next week. Hope Lil Dirty doesn't have any lingering issues.

You have discovered the Zeno's paradox of NFL out of bounds rules.

Why didn't the Bucs take their second timeout when there was 2:30 left on the clock? They could have stopped it twice before the 2 min warning. The two min warning would have stopped it after 3rd down. They lost themselves 15-20 seconds.

That's just not how's it written in the NFL rule book, and I've spent too many precious minutes already looking at it tonight 😂

He's past the first down marker, both feet are touching the ground, but he's talking out of bounds bc the pass is already a yard out of bounds. And the ball crossed out of bounds a yard before the first down marker.

In the example I forgot to mention that I was assuming the player stretching out of bounds to make the catch and would touch out of bounds within moments of making the catch. Why wouldn't the spot be determined by where the ball crossed out of bounds for a receiver catching the ball who goes out of bounds?

If the spot is determined by where the ball crosses the sideline, then a play could happen where a wr catches the ball laid out at the sticks, and if the ball crosses out of bounds before the 1st down marker the spot should be moved back and there's no first down.

I found it. The ball itself has to touch out of bounds to make the player out of bounds... BUT when a player goes out of bounds, the spot is placed where the ball crossed out of bounds. Item 2. Runner Out of Bounds. If the ball is in player possession when that player goes out of bounds, the out-of-bounds spot is the forward point of the ball when the ball crosses the side line, or, if the ball does not cross the sideline, the forward point of the ball at the instant the player is out of bounds.

I've seen the "new" application of the rules a few times. I have the full NFL rule book, I'll see what it says.

Exactly. That's a great point, and it makes me wonder if the OOB rule is different for a runner vs. an attempted catch.

So in the case of the ball crossing above the white paint of the sideline, is it ruled out of bounds when any portion of the ball crosses, like when any part of the foot touches? Or when the whole ball crosses over, like in soccer? I don't think you can... Anymore... And I'm not sure when that changed. But it seems to have.

Is Belechick tanking for Stroud?