Kelly the Dog

Not to mention that he won the National Championship at JUCO and D1. Sure he had good to great teams but he was a clear leader and winner.

Abstract expressionist painter Jackson Pollock was born in Cody, Wyoming, a town named after the man who helped establish it, William Frederick "Buffalo Bill" Cody. Pollock’s family then moved to Arizona and California, and Jackson later followed his older brother Charles to New York. Coincidence? I don't think so.

He's used to running for his life from almost every snap at Wyoming.

Last year the D created a lot of turnovers early and were surprisingly very good. Then they went for a long stretch without creating a lot and they were crushed. The year end stats were somewhat misleading because they were either very good - at least at keeping teams out of the endzone - or they were brutal.

Could very much harm him because regardless of what he picks up watching, he cannot prepare for the live bullets of the pass rush or the speed of the DBs, LBs and DLs behind or past the LOS. So it may take him much longer to reach his potential versus a guy who faced it for a year or two and struggled but learned the speed and intricacies of the game at that speed.

I agree somewhat with the fact that Jordan Palmer has Allen as a client and so he is going to say extremely favorable things about him. But if you or I am going to acknowledge that, we must also acknowledge that Jordan Palmer wants to be doing this for the rest of his life, and if he talks up a guy like that who tanks, he is not going to have that dream job very long. So he's not likely to be saying things he doesn't believe to be true.

Siskel and Ebert?

There is no proven way to do it. There are just as many examples of great quarterbacks thrown into the fire early as sit him and let him watch. It's impossible for me to believe that after three years of starting, Aaron Rodgers, entering his fourth season wouldn't be as good as Aaron Rodgers as a rookie.

I'm really starting to like Siran Siran. And it's almost inarguable that McDermott knows how to coach up DBs. He will make the team and be seeing the field in packages by midseason me thinks.

That's a terrific post for a filibuster. I agree with about 90% of it. Nice job all around. I imagine we sign at least three guys who will make the roster, including a veteran LB and a veteran speed WR, and a guy like Gilislee if he gets cut. Hopefully an OL but I don't predict it.

Not forgetting he is a McD guy. That is the only reason he is on an NFL roster. He is going to be cut because McD and Beane are firm believers in versatility and special teams. And like last year, they kept only two quarterbacks during the season, so they could keep more of the versatile guys and special teamers. And there is no reason to keep a developmental young guy whatsoever when your prized rookie is a young developmental guy and your starter is a young developmental guy. None. Barring injury. So he will be cut, no one will pick him up for their roster, and he will be put on the PS in case of injury.

Yeah, you and everyone else in or out of the league who knows anything about NFL football! So what?!

He was bad long before the game, right before the game, especially during the game, and after the game. Coaches rarely acknowledge they made a dumbass move and ours all but apologized to his team for being a dumbass and starting NP.

I think the Bills will likely sign a veteran LB like Dansby or even Bowman to play on important downs, goalline, short yardage, etc. They will likely need that veteran badly. Lorax is great for leadership and he will give us 10-15 downs a game at least. but we need a tough guy to shed blocks in the middle and Edmunds isn't that guy yet. Love the pick though.

The HC made the decision to start Peterman, BENCHED him at halftime, and then told his team and the general public that it was a big mistake. And the offense regressed. And he is a defensive coach.

Agree Dave. This defense is now looking pretty good, and if Edmunds plays well fairly quickly. I'm not sure this was the plan though. Listening to Beane today, and it's impossible to know for sure but he was pretty convincing, that it just happened that way. They were looking offense as much as defense, and every time it was their pick they couldn't justify taking the offensive guy. He even said he had a tough time talking to Daboll who was coming up to him about every pick and they were discussing which way they would go with guys that were available. It was actually quite amusing. Plus he revealed that he wanted to trade up for a guy, and even mentioned Kirk.

Him or Captain Picard.

Yep. There was no chance of trading up to #1. Elway may have said he wasn't playing for the Bills either. The Colts were pusies and caved to his threat that he would play baseball instead, as he was drafted by the Yankees, but that was never a real threat IMO. He was pretty much the best QB prospect ever.

That could have been the last straw. But Edwards could not handle the rush at all in those games and that is why he was cut. Chan didn't see that in preseason and practice. You wouldn't cut a guy for one play. Exactly. he was a 5th round pick because he had a rag arm and shouldn't be expected to be good. That wasn't my observations from just the two games, but watching him in college a little, watching tape after we took him, and watching him throughout preseason. He didn't even handle a preseason rush well.

Fair enough. I respect yours as well. I think Peterman is cut and put on the practice squad, unless something named Zapoticky beats him out for the PS.

Why? Kelly was a great prospect. I wanted Kelly over Marino. There wasn't much if any controversy whatsoever as far as I recall. As a senior, the year he was drafted, Marino threw 17 TDs and 23 INTs. That's why he fell so far.

Have there been players that dealt with pressure better as they got more experienced? Of course. Pretty much every one of them. But there are also a lot of players that cannot deal with it and never will. It looks very much like Peterman is one of those guys. Trent Edwards was one of those guys. Peterman is Trent Edwards without the arm strength and Trent had decent at best arm strength. Edwards never handled pressure well. Some Bills fans will claim he could before he got his bell wrung in AZ but that is not true. He couldn't even when he was playing fairly well. Chan Gailey, who knows a thing or two about offense, showed this with an extraordinary decision. His first year as HC he had Edwards as the starter. Edwards looked very good in practice and in preseason, which again cannot simulate game speed or pass rush. And thought to himself I may have something here. He started 2-3 games and it became immediately apparent that Trent could not handle the pass rush. And Chan didn't bench him, he CUT him! That rarely happens. But Chan knew he would never be good because he never could be good, and Edwards slowly faded away and out of the league. Peterman is the same. Only not as good as Edwards. Bills fans got enamored with Edwards because he could read defenses pre-snap, make a quick decision on where he was going to go, and throw a very nice looking 8 yard out pattern. But that was the only thing he was very good at. Which is what fans got enamored with Peterman over, and what he does very well, and the only thing he does very well.

No, he's not. Peterman has numerous qualities about him that are NFL quality, which is why people like him. He also has at least two qualities about him that kill all other NFL qualities, he doesn't have the arm to get the ball where it needs to go quick enough more than 15 yards down the field (and sometimes less than 15 yards) and he cannot handle pressure well. He's awful at it. You cannot play in the NFL with those two traits. He didn't show those traits in preseason last year, even when people thought he was good. Those traits cannot be exposed in practice.

They talk up everyone. Saturday they talked up Jordan Mills. Peterman is going to be released, not picked up, and then put on the practice squad. The only fly in that ointment is that he can look good in practice situations, and in preseason when the game is only 3/4 speed. He didn't even look all that good last year in preseason, despite what multitudes here were claiming, as he completed 54% and had one TD and threw a bunch of terrible passes. The good thing about that is AJ will shine in that scenario, and clearly outshine Peterman. We can only hope that Josh's smarts show that he picks up the offense quickly enough to let him pass AJ before the first game. I'd say that is at least a 50-50 proposition.

I saw the whole game live as well as the tape of it and saw all five and know how and why.