Kelly the Dog

I understand that it is difficult to just work a guy out and know whether or not you should sign him. But especially difficult with a guy like that. Who has the measurables and likely catches most everything in practice. It's really in the games when you see that he doesn't look like a solid player, game breaker or a gamer.

Yeah. Seems to be from that one. I thought it was three players but I guess it's two. They keep changing the rules. Thx.

I shouldn't have said it was only reason. I forgot about the Daboll factor. I'm sure that had as much to do with it as anything. And I don't think that kind of coachnepotism is a bad thing. He obviously knows him well enough to understand if he can beat NFL CBs.

That white boy is gonna dominate the LPFL (Lunch Pail League)

No one on that roster can get deep. That's the obvious and only reason he is on the roster. He may even be released in favor of Perriman today. I would doubt there is any intel about another team that would add him to their 53. Especially because he wasn't drafted and there isn't much college tape. I think it shows that NP has a short leash.

Are you sure that is a recent rule book it's quoted from? There are players allowed with accrued seasons now. Three of them per team. Nate has an accrued season and he is eligible.

You can't teach speed. You can't usually teach always getting open. If he dropped passes all the time in practices we didn't see they wouldn't have kept him. I hated him in preseason and still do because he doesn't seem to track the ball for ****. It's not easy to teach but it's possible. I'd rather take a flyer on this kind of size and speed and skills than most #6 WRs. He still may be released and signed to PS, and he won't be active in a Peterman game but it will be interesting to see when Josh comes in by game two.

They are both quarterbacks that came from colleges that start with the letter P. That's the end of the relative and valid comparison.

The fact that Foster had a 0.0% chance AND he still made it is a testament to his skills. Good job, Robert. You nailed it, 26.

Most years there is a team like the Browns of the last couple, or the Niners of a few years ago that were easily to plug in as the worst before the season starts. This year there really isn't any that are like that. There is good old reason to say, on paper, which is all this is, that the Bills are the worse. And they were downgraded when Nate was announced. That is yet to be seen how he will play. Then there is the fact that every year it seems that one third of the teams are substantially worse than predicted, one third are about the same, and one third are substantially better.

Ivory runs as hard as any back in the league. He's great to watch and root for. That combo of three guys is nice. Throw Ray Ray Ray in the mix as a gadget guy and we can have some fun with that position. I'm on a crusade, admittedly, but it's the reason not to play Peterman unless he proves he can beat teams over the top. It's possible he can but yet to happen.

You say that like it was a mistake to sign Ivory to that contract. Ivory has looked good, too. It wasnt that he played bad it is that Murphy overachieved and looked very good. That could be looked at as the GM getting two good guys for $4m rather than too much to pay, $3m, for a short yardage guy.

This shall come to be known as "The Brandon Oliver Freakout Part Duh."

I saw that, too. And I said in another thread, there are reports out of Baltimore they are schooling their DBs not to jump the out patterns TOO early on Sunday because they may have to reach back for the ball on their pick sixes before it gets to the WR, which is a much harder catch.

Reports are the Bills are teaching their receivers how to tackle without lowering their helmets.

I think Chas is a better possibility than Lynch as of now. Tough to know without really seeing them all that much. Lynch has just looked bad to me. Chad has skills. Remains to be seen if he has a cement head.

The reason you play Allen is because we want to run. Gonna be tough with 8-9 in the box.

Think of the reverse. Think of this board if Lynch beat out Chad Kelly by a hair and Kelly was brought in for a workout.

The rich get richer.

I imagine it's one of those things where they have a specific role in mind for Ivory who is old but still runs hard. He will be in on short yardage and maybe goalline and certain packages or a series here and there. But if McCoy were to go down, Murphy would be the one to come in and get the bulk of the carries as the new RB1. They don't want Ivory carrying 15-20 times a game. Its possible that Murphy just beat him out but Ivory looked good too.

Usually But depends on the team. I'm not sure how McD and the Bills do it. As you recall, Rex just chose who he wanted each week. The players didn't choose.

Good point. Zay Jones?

I would say that the starter gets 90% of the total coaching and the backup gets 10%. Maybe 80-20 if being generous. He's in all the meetings of course and watching a ton of film and talking to the coaches and listening to what they are telling Nate. So that is all valuable information. But he's not getting the real reps or schooling on what he is doing right or wrong running our offense.

Velocity at the combine means next to nothing. Dalton was tied with Cam Newton and ahead of Joe Flacco. Who has the strong arms and who has the mediocre arm?

In limited touches he was quite good. Averaged 5.7 yards a carry and his only pass thrown to him he broke a couple tackles and went for 29 yards.