Kelly the Dog

Yup. Other than four really good reasons, there is no good reason to get a veteran QB in here to help.

I have never seen a QB that is either right on the money or way off. There isn't a lot in between with him.

Maybe it wouldn't mean anything IF we had a QB coach. Maybe it wouldn't mean anything IF we had an OC who has ever developed a young QB. Maybe it wouldn't mean anything IF we had an offensive minded HC. Maybe it wouldn't mean anything IF we had a bunch of good WR and OL who help Josh out. But we don't, and don't, and don't, and don't.

T.Johnson, Edmunds, Hughes, J. Phillips, Kyle, and Star all played well on defense. Ivory and Shady on O.

I didn't think they were anti-Bills. I just thought they were anti-intelligent.

I could never figure out why people didn't like that signing, I loved that signing. He's been one of the hardest runners in the entire league for years and years.

They were terrible. They couldn't hang on to the ball. They dropped an easy TD in the fourth. They couldn't block well. Mariotta looked bad. They didn't try to take advantage of Marlowe. They didn't really utilize Bill-killer Lewis who had a few good plays. They didnt really try to confuse or blitz Josh. They were worse than us.

Holmes may not have caught the ball but at least it was a lazy crappy pattern he ran. Took forever to stop and turn.

It was also a terrible pattern. Took him forever to stop and turn for the ball. That is not an NFL WR play before the ball got there. He should not be a regular WR at all.

Both teams really wanted to lose, the Titans just wanted it a little more than we did.

And AVP. Kelly constantly said what great sounding boards both of them were.

Should have been done a long time ago. Barring injury he's not going to play. They better release Nate, too. It's criminal to have no real QB coach, and no veteran for Josh to talk to, and no offensive-minded head coach, and an OC with no record whatsoever of grooming young QBs. Oh, and no receivers or offensive line. It's insane.

Right now, 67 year old Terrel Owens would be our best WR.

Because the #3 and # 4 should not even be on an NFL roster. We don't have a #5. Our #2 was literally THE worst WR in the league last year, had a scary off season and hasn't got better. And our #1 doesn't get open, catch the ball, or try hard. It's the worst group I have ever seen and I have watched NFL football 50+ years. Add that to the fact you gave up so much for a rookie franchise type, gave him no QB coach, no veteran backup, no OC with a history of developing QBs and a HC who I like but knows nothing of offense and I'm embarrassed this is my team.

I'd take Da'Rick and Martin Nance at this point.

It's truly amazing how many they get wrong that are obvious. In any game, not a homer Bills thing.

Maybe. No one else is going to make him their #1. He could easily like Josh's arm.

And I think Darnolds are substantially better.

There are three guys out there better than three WR we have. I wouldn't cut Zay but I would bench him. I would cut Holmes and Foster. I would try to trade KB because we are not going to re-sign him. I would even sign Dez.

Haven't been watching game but looks like Mayfield threw pick six and fumbled twice inside his own six, both of which became Raider TDs. Edit. One was at own 20 not own 6.

It's criminal. I don't blame them for KB. He was never this bad. But Zay is awful now. What does he do? What did he do? Holmes should have been cut. He was kept for ST. Foster is our #4. He didn't start in college and dropped more than he has caught. We don't have a 5. It's literally the worst ever. I defy you to find a 5 man overall group ever worse.

KB has a four year and three game history of getting no separation. Zay has a one year and three game history of getting no separation (or catching the ball). Andre Holmes has a six year and three game history of getting no separation. Robert Foster doesn't even have a history. Ray Ray Ray hasnt really played. No live plays today showed separation. No replays today showed separation. Looks like a trend.

It's embarrassing.

So surround him with David Curry, Daboll, Nate Peterman and Sean McDermott and let him soak in all that QB knowledge.

You also have a crappy QB coach who is a WR coach. No veteran backup like a Luke McCown that Josh can get in game advice from. He's going to get real time knowledge from Nate? (I'm talking experience here). As well as an OC who has never developed a QB. And a HC who knows nothing of offense. So let's not give him WR or an OL.