Kelly the Dog

It wasn't a good throw but it got there. Clay tripped over his own feet. He had all day to see it and come to it and he fell unforced.

Yep. It was pretty easy to come back for it. He just tackled himself.

He stumbled with no one around him coming back for it. He had all day to come to the ball and even said after the game that he blew it. He didnt really lunge for the ball he fell on his own and then dropped it. It wasn't that hard of a catch.

If Clay doesn't stumble or makes that catch it's one of the best fourth quarter comebacks in Bills history. A little over two minutes. 90 yards. On the road. No time outs. He already had 3-4 very good passes before that. We lost a review that would have been first and goal at the five. He eluded three rushers before looking downfield again and throwing all the way across the field to the enzone 40+ yards.

You drunk, bud?

McDermott is consistently awful at clock management. Scary bad. He has some extremely strong traits as a HC and an equal amount of worrisome ones. I think the jury is still out. But right now he is very bad at game management.

Yep. He also took a lot off a bunch of passes, which his natural tendency is not to do. He lofted the ball to DiMarco and another one in the second half that I liked. He's played like 7-8 games with a crappy cast. He's played VERY good IMO.

So in other words it was a good pass and not a yard or two short? He definitely should have come back for the ball. He has a lot of time to see it.

Thanks. Apparently in the locker room Zay said it was his fault, he was supposed to sit. That fact makes a huge difference in whether or not you thought Allen has a huge accuracy problem. Without knowing this kind of stuff you never really know.

Apparently Zay just said that he screwed up on the missed ball in the endzone. He was supposed to sit on the pattern and it wasnt a bad pass at all by Josh.

To me, Allen made three heroic plays on that play and then threw a "kinda bad" pass that still should have been caught. If I HAD to assign more blame on whether or not it was a completion or not, I would blame Clay more than Allen. He should have come back a little more. He had two hands on it with no one around him, and then doesn't catch it. Clay needs to make that catch.

I'm not sure what happened on the play early that Josh missed a wide open Zay in the endzone. When I watched the replay I thought it was a bad pass he has to make. I thought, however, listening to McDermott on the postgame talk about it, that either Josh assumed Zay was going to sit on the pattern, or Zay was supposed to sit on the pattern, which would have made it a great pass and Zay screwed up, not Josh. If he was supposed to sit, he blew it. Again, I am not sure what McD was inferring, but he seemed to be saying it was a miscommunication not a misfire, which it appeared to be.

He surely missed a few passes he needs to make. But I don't know how you come out of this game not excited for Allen's and the Bills' future. He's got ridiculous skills and talent.

You guys are nuts. Josh is all about football. Charles Clay is still hurt. He’s bringing a biscuit to Kelvin Benjamin so he can play Tight End against the Fins.

Sounds like a great kid with a good head on his shoulders. Hope that you that showed him how proud you were by taking him for drinks at a tittie bar.

On the bomb he was the second read. Josh said after the game that he thought Ramsey was going to jump Zay Jones curl route, which he started to, then he decided to look for Foster.

Apparently, it all started because she wouldn't ho.

Both are true. Foster did an incredible job of hanging onto the ball just when being popped. Then surviving the hit to come back and play. Very impressive. Both of those passes and plays were terrific from both Allen and Foster. I loved that in the huddle on the bomb Foster asked for "a landmark" and Josh said "the bottom of the forty" and that's exactly where Foster and the ball went and the catch was made.

Not only did McD not come up with trust the process, he didn't even come up with McD. That was first used in the American vernacular by the McDonald's Corporation, which I believe makes hamburgers IIRC.

Good point. Although you could look at it another way. Foster wasn't going to be drafted in all likelihood. He didn't even start in college. They were likely talking to him before and maybe during the draft. That happens a lot. The way to secure both of them is to draft Proehl and sign Foster if you know your connection will secure him.

Exactly.

I counted things like left, middle and right as three separate skills, plue short, medium and long as three, sliding and stepping up in pocket as two, etc.

Understood. But there was a large contingent that was using the 8-19 stat to show he was inaccurate in the game, and he wasn't. So I mentioned that if you were going to use stats to show how he played, how about the YPA or YPC? I understand it's not a big sample but neither is 19 attempts. He also had 18 yards in the air per attempt, which was highest in the league.

Yep. He seemed to have all kinds of issues at Bama, some of his own doing and some bad luck and circumstance. I would love to know what Daboll originally told Beane and McDermott about him.

He wasn't a walk-on. He was the second ranked WR in the entire country coming out of high school and 23 overall.