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Tough as hell. I like signing him in Lawson's role. Guessing he'd be cheap but prefers going for a ring. He's worth it for the attitude he'd bring. I'd probably pace him to last for the playoffs in case von goes down again. I'm not against resigning Lawson though.

You still have to draft a T because Dawkins is eating himself out of the league

I thought motor was considered a sound blocker. I do agree he was underrated, and would have done better with more rhythm and use. I will miss him and would not have minded if the Bills re-signed him. He was an underrated receiver, good teammate, and talented guy. Motor's biggest problem was his fumbling. When you nickel and dime the fumbles, there were some costly turnovers over the years. He seemed to fumble a lot, especially when you factor his lower attempts. Total fumbles were middle of the pack, but when you factor his low # of att/ they were high. His fumbles/attempt stat was likely top 5 worst in the NFL last year. Another flaw; I don't think he was a great short yardage back. Some of that is made worse by our oline, but yeah, I think ultimately, Bills wanted a guy who hit the hole harder...maybe seeing a guy like Pachecho didn't help him. Stat-wise he was sorta Fred Jackson like...but not the on field leader, nor the rags to riches story, and he didn't seem as tough as Fred, though he was no pushover.

Honestly, solid signing. He's more productive than Gabe Davis per snap, better catch % and word is excellent blocker. Decent production given he's likely the 3rd or 4th option every play and had a back up QB for several games.

I would not hold my breath. They signed McGovern to be a starter. Somehow, Bates is some unshakable stalwart on the line now. Bargain basement. I'd doubt if they perceive us needing anything but some late round picks for depth. Hope I'm wrong. We will likely sign a couple deep dive dudes on 1 year deals to fill out some depth.

I don't agree RT is clearly our biggest need. I would agree it is a need though. I'd say needs are MLB , slot WR, G, and RT. Could also see us going S and bigger RB in the later rounds.

An identity over the years, yes the Steelers have been better than the Bills. Super bowls and playoff appearances validate this. Many recent in the same era. Their only struggles have come when they've drifted away from solid Oline play and running, and or has bad QB play.

I think the Steelers know a thing or two about how to build a team. Stack an oline for a young QB...run...pass...balanced o in the cold weather built for runs in January. They have an identity...and that's very cool. ...better than our current identy which is to let Allen run around like a chicken with his head cut off and huck it deep into gusts and wind. Frankly, even K-gun prioritized oline as well...we stacked guys and horded talent on the line....you can argue that line built the K-gun. Shoot, and when the weather got cold and snowy we threw screen passes galore and ran the ball.....not the huck it deep downfield attack forcing throws into wind and bad weather that people falsely recall.

Its mind baffling Virgil...I came off that Cincy game and this season thinking we really needed to get tougher on the oline. Get meaner with a more physical attitude. It appears the Bills don't share those concerns.... At a minimum, we have huge depth needs this year and needed solid bodies. No ones looking for a power running team, but Beane and CO are not on the same page with OLine talent. There have been huge mistakes and those mistakes have been made trying to find lower priced gems in the rough, bringing them in on revolving short term deals, and hoping to develop them. This has largely had C- results. This track record is a factor when I don't give Beane the "benefit of the doubt" like a good fan should. With OL matters, I simply don't trust them. Also the Bills are so stubborn on some (particular) developmental projects like Ford and Brown, they hang on to them much longer out of either arrogance or stubbornness, then jettisoned guys like Teller. Hell, even our so-called stalwarts like Dawkins and Morse, could be gone in 1-2 years. I just don't get why there was not more priority put on the OL and bringing in a top vet this off season. We had the money to do this....we chose not to and to get by with less....essentially we are not valuing the OL. This will kill us next January. I'm scratching my head on a couple of the moves / non moves.

Huge miss for us. He's 2x the player McGovern is.

Powers got 4/51 a contract like that could be done friendly to the cap. That's likely more cap friendly than Poyer's deal. I honestly don't see Morse here forever, and frankly Dawkins is not the stud and unquestioned bookend people think he is. Very quickly we could be depleted on the oline...and not spending much money on it with those 2 gone in 1-2 years. I really thought we needed to get one of the top Gs available in FA instead of some fringe depth guys, which we could have replaced by young guys on the draft, or UDFA. Its especially more important when you figure the team has been lousy at evaluating OL talent...both FAs and Draft picks. We don't have the track record with middle of the road gems in the rough that gives me blinding confidence. Guys like Feliciano, Spain, Nsekhe...then dudes like Van Roten, Quessenberry, Saffold...etc... there's a ton of flops....or at least guys who were avg at best. I thought it was a given the Bills were going to open up the pocket books for at least one top OL. Seems I was wrong, though there are a couple still out there I like.

I would say first thing is filling the glaring gaps. Second try to improve fix areas of 2ndary weakness, and lastly to get better depth. I thought getting better for the Bills meant getting saavy tough maulers on the Oline. Oline is currently worse. We got a mid level finesse blocker, who may or may not pan out. Tons of depth holes along the 2nd string...and no improvement to other weaker starters, or guys with questionable injury history. I knew it was going to be tough to get better at QB2. We got slightly worse. I also hoped that "addressing gaps" would be w some younger players, not older players or mid level players who have never been the guy you want/ hope them to be. Because we've not clearly filled those needs, we will likely have to draft the same positions in the draft. Harty is kind of in an awkward place for me. We need more WRs but still need that slot guy, still need a big WR.

Meh....

Not super happy with the move. Can't get the image of his poor 2nd half play and getting trucked down after down out of my head. That and we will still need to draft young guys.

Meh

No

Comparing him to Edmunds is moot now. That being said...David's a baller and on field leader. He'd be great for the D for a couple years.

We had to be under cap by Wednesday. Don't think it means a lot...I mean it was either today or tomorrow. I think they will make a couple moves but not a big sign of anything huge.

I'm not totally sure the Phins got drastically better, I'm sure they will bring in a slew of new PB caliber faces, and jettison young talent or others they picked up recently. Difference is they got a pretty good coach...but i thought they did before as well.

I'll just keep my mouth shut. One of the top Gs, and I'm good. The only dude we've ever got or gone after that I wanted in FA was Takeo Spikes....

Imagine if you will...an ego big enough to not post this in several of the other threads...but a thought so profound it needed its own thread for no reason.

I thought players cut after the SB were not able to sign.

Look I generally agree, but he visibly says crazy stuff on the sidelines and has had out with coaches. Oh, and he already turned on one team and spun up toxic relationship w a solid playoff type team.

You sure he won't get that anyway?

He's better off just pulling out and doing draft next year