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This was as actually my stance at our annual family football debate (hosting the holidays). I can't put Mahomes at the top of my list. I can put him among the best, but he is not the best. Kelce on the other hand is the best. The chiefs 'dynasty" is a factor of Reid/Kelce more than it is Mahomes. Kelce is a complete TE, and sees coverage better than pretty much anyone. As soon as Kelce is gone, the dynasty is over. The chiefs will still be a very good and very competitive team, but the "unbeatable" factor is more about how clutch Kelce is.

Agree with the few voices of sanity here. There was nothing more conservative about our second half gameplan (compared to first half), and the idea we came out running repeatedly is blatantly false. People need to go rewatch the 2nd half, or look at some drive logs and take notes. I think many people are as guilty of making up a narrative as the media. We passed 7 out of our first 9 plays. This small dataset represents most of the 3rd quarter, half of our 2nd half drives, and had zero repeat runs. We didn't execute. We picked up 1 first down on 3 sets of downs with a couple of drops, slightly misplaced balls, and good defensive plays. By the time we got to our 3rd drive it had closed to 21-19 with 1 quarter left to play. The smart drive here is to eat up 6-8 minutes and score a touchdown. We executed a 4:30 drive that got us to field goal range. This consisted of 4 passes and 5 runs. The runs were (11,-1,4,7,2). There were no back to back runs in the same set of downs. Likewise there were no Run-Run-Pass sets. The set of downs that we stalled on consisted of 2 consecutive missed passes. While we ended up stalling in the passing game, this drive was on track to be exactly what was needed at that point. We were moving he ball and eating up clock. While it didn't look easy, we could only blame ourselves for missing plays that were there. The play calling was not holding us back. 4th drive... We get the ball with 8:40 left, up by 5 near mid field. It's hard to kill 8 minutes on a 54 yard drive, so we start out just trying to move the ball with our normal offense. Pass for 12, Run for 8, pass for 5, pass for 8, pass for 1. We are now at 15 passes, 8 runs in the 2nd half. We have come out pass heavy for 1.5 quarters and are averaging 4YPC on the ground with 3.86 yards per play in pass game. This was our standard 2nd half attack that looked sluggish because we were playing a good defense and were not executing at our best for those 1.5 quarters. I think this point is when the strategy actually changed and some debate could actually make sense. We are now at the Bal 21 with 6 minutes left. McD does the math and says to Brady "we have to score here. I want you to punch it in, but even if we don't let's see if we can burn some clock and get an easy FG.". We manage to burn another 2.5 minutes and two Baltimore timeouts. Runs of 8,2,3,5,0. The call on 3rd from the 2 was a Josh option. We had our 2 minute drill touchdown of first half on a similar/same play and multiple first down pickups on a similar call. This was not a conservative call, it was our best call to punch it in. We just "went to the well" too many times. At the conclusion of meaningful play calling, we ended with 15 passes and 13 runs, including the 5 consecutive runs to kill time at the end. Like I said, I don't agree with many of the takes and dialogue surrounding the 2nd half. I saw the exact opposite of a conservative shell. People are confusing the results with what was called. I hated the results. I wish we had executed better or had called something different that was executed better. But just because what they called didn't work out doesn't give us justification to blame it on Brady or McD. Call out Josh, Knox, shakir, Kincaid. Every one of them missed a key 1st down in the 2nd half. Or just realize you can get an unfortunate streak of 2 drives that just don't work because you are playing a good team.

I think Brown always showed he had the potential to be something special. He showed it even in his rookie year. However, guys with his height and build have a tendency to have back issues linger (and potentially never recover). From people who are uninformed on his medical status (all of us) I think it was quite reasonable to be sceptical of his long term availability. When they gave the contract to him, they did it with full awareness of his medical situation. I felt pretty good at that point. While it is possible that he has a shortened career or availability concerns at some point in the future, I don't think any of us have a reason to doubt him. From all available evidence he is "good to go". This season he has absolutely played to the level that we only hoped for and absolutely is outplaying his contract.

Agreed that this comes across poorly. Doing this for someone who did the right thing that helped us (Bengals getting us the wildcard) is positive messaging. Doing this bc someone made possibly the biggest mistake of their career against us is just rude (to put it politely).

Agreed, not understanding the love for a sneak. It's not a gimme from that distance and they had like 13 in the box. If you know you are kicking on 4th, you make a play to try for it. Wish they did something off the edge or rolled Josh out, but glad they made a call to try and get it in. Also glad they made the right call on 4th.

Third down play would likely have failed with push. Ravens were all in to stop it. Play should have gone outside.

It wasn't even a penalty either

I wouldn't ever bet against the bills to win, but I would bet ATS if I felt the game was going to be closer than the spread indicates. Does that count as betting against them?

I'll play. The trend indicates that the score should be Baltimore 27 at Buffalo 38

It's not a league award. It is literally the Associated Press's list of awards that they made up and award how they see fit. The NFL has neither the ability, or desire to stop outside parties from discussing and driving traffic to the NFL. There are other MVP awards given, like PFWA, PFF, yahoo, and other media orgs. The only thing that makes the AP unique is that the NFL decided over the last decade to host the "NFL Honors" as an additional league event where 20ish awards (most or all from 3rd parties) are announced and the AP was given the honor of presenting a series of their awards. I suppose you could consider these "sanctioned" by the NFL. The AP (and other media) has a bunch of awards that they give outside of NFL honors (like All Pro).

Hollins had me rofl with that spin

Even Lamar could have made that throw! (am I doing it right?)

If his toe tapped down before he had possession.

Lamar looked to have something going on with lower back. He might be fine, or it may tense up after the game and impact him for a couple weeks.

I think the steelers are a really good pick against the spread, this is likely to be a close game. I think Steelers win this straight up at least 4/10 times for all the reasons others have mentioned.