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Guys we don't know at all how these guys are going to be in the pros. The scouts hardly know Every one is entitled to their opinion. That's the fun of it. But I get annoyed by the "I called deshaun Watson, dak, Wilson being good QBs". I'm sure every body has missed more than they hit Every one is entitled to their opinion. That's the fun of it. But I get annoyed by the "I called deshaun Watson, dak, Wilson being good QBs". I'm sure every body has missed more than they hit I'd love if Pete became a franchise QB. But it'd be bittersweet to have savior pete beating his chest for the next 12 years.

How long has Guerrero been with TB

That would be an awesome mock draft destroyer.

As we should as is tradition

New season of TPB on Netflix

Who TF knows. It's history anyways

Whaley certainly had a plan.. just missed on his qb And a lot of other guys

I know. I made the dang chart so I was going to post it anyway. He did have a nerfed Faulk which had to affect things. Kurt was a pick machine and lost out to Bulger. And 06-09 he was spelling lienert.

the process of winning and getting talent?

because he's not the 1. He'll be our #1a/b depending on how he competes with KB. Certainly faster so he'll get way more action.

yeah

BOOOOO

Seems like the Panthers want that QB. Cam did fine with few weapons, I think that philosophy is carrying over here.

That's fine. But we need to tailor the franchise man's roster quick. The Rams clearly recognized Goff needed help in the WR position for year 2. He's that kind of quarterback and that's not a problem at all.

I think Tyrod is that type of quarterback.. I view it as a playing style, do you lock into your first read, say an AJ, AB, Moss, and toss it up to him? Tyrod couldn't do that with Deonte, and was poor at making the next reads, and generally just dumped it to Clay or Shady, his best players. He had a somewhat correct ability to adapt to personnel, just not nearly in the tier that other quarterbacks do. We get a playing style that adapts to lack of skill position players, we can get an upgrade to Tyrod. If I look at quarterbacks on bad offenses that do well, I'd argue guys like Mariota, Cousins, Smith have this style, making more with less. It's just to a lesser degree to when we talk about Rodgers, Brady. The flip side is QBs that thrive with stud weapons and may do better than Smith in the same situation. Andy Dalton (AJ McCarron thus far) and Matt Ryan have the premier WRs in the league, and maximize that talent, while Russell Wilson fails to use Graham to maximize his play because he's not the type to toss up jump balls. He's essentially a more cerebral, accurate, etc., better than every way than Tyrod, but ultimately has a similar style of play. Either way works, we need to recognize what QBs in this draft are the Russ, Mariota, Cousins, Smith mold, because that's the situation we have.

if I had a Dallas OLine or Ram's skill positions I'd be comfortable taking a Mason Rudolph or Josh Allen. Josh Allen would be a particular bad fit with no deep ball going for him, whereas he's be great with a Josh Gordon or name your favorite star speedster. Would still be a good team. Dak would have mediocre on the Bills rookie season, but the Cowboys had the luxury of taking him on a whim and starting him with huge success.

I don't know jack about the quarterbacks haha, swap rosen for Jackson, I just want the FO to get that guy that can do more with less.

10-6, new regime gets a 1 year Mulligan after making the playoffs, gives us stability if these guys know what they're doing

Were great before him too

I really don't know tbh. Just what I gather from the board, people who follow college more closely. Thought Jackson was the type to scramble for broken plays at which point any WR will be open eventually. Point really is I hope our FO has this in mind.

I'll just summarize by saying with our skill position players as they are, we need a certain playing style from our quarterback. Some quarterbacks simply need the help, others get by without it. Regarding the quarterbacks in the draft, we need to reach for a Baker, Jackson, Darnold because these are playing styles that won't be super dependent on the lack of skill position talent we currently have. I think some quarterbacks get by with middling receiver talents. Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Brett Favre, Phillip Rivers always turn water into wine every year. Josh Allen, Rosen, Rudolph are types that seem to need WR talent to succeed (mind you this is information I gather from TBD, I don't know anything about these draftees. And I think there have been great quarterbacks that clearly needed this to succeed. Think Rich Gannon when he got him one Jerry Rice, Culpepper to Moss, Eli with ODB or Plax, or a freak Tyree catch. Even Peyton Manning was better (mind you he was always good, but I'm saying better) when he was working with Reggie Wayne, Harrison, Edgerrin. And his great Denver years had Demaryius (??) Thomas, Eric Decker, Julius Thomas and Wes Welker. I'm fascinated by Kurt Warner's career because he played with so many HOFs that without him still performed at a HOF level. When they were aging, or he was on a team with middling talent, he wasn't so hot. I don't think he has the success without Torry, Bruce, Faulk, Fitz, Boldin. TLDR a Kurt Warner at his prime would struggle on this team. Kurt Warner #1 Age #2 #3 Year Age Tm G GS Rate 1998 27 STL 1 0 47.2 1999*+ 28 STL 16 16 109.2 Isaac Bruce 27 Marshall Faulk 26 Torry Holt 23 2000* 29 STL 11 11 98.3 Torry Holt 24 Isaac Bruce 28 Marshall Faulk 27 2001*+ 30 STL 16 16 101.4 Torry Holt 25 Isaac Bruce 29 Marshall Faulk 28 2002 31 STL 7 6 67.4 Torry Holt 26 Isaac Bruce 30 Marshall Faulk 29 2003 32 STL 2 1 72.9 Torry Holt 27 Isaac Bruce 31 Dane Looker 27 2004 33 NYG 10 9 86.5 Amani Toomer 30 Jeremy Shockey 24 Tiki Barber 29 2005 34 ARI 10 10 85.8 Larry Fitzgerald 22 Anquan Boldin 25 Bryant Johnson 24 2006 35 ARI 6 5 89.3 Anquan Boldin 26 Larry Fitzgerald 23 Bryant Johnson 25 2007 36 ARI 14 11 89.8 Larry Fitzgerald 24 Anquan Boldin 27 Bryant Johnson 26 2008* 37 ARI 16 16 96.9 Larry Fitzgerald 25 Anquan Boldin 28 Steve Breaston 25 2009 38 ARI 15 15 93.2 Larry Fitzgerald 26 Anquan Boldin 29 Steve Breaston 26

With our receivers he's not going to get throws going his way. But from what your saying just seems like the type of quarterback that can thrive with weapons. Unfortunately we have ourselves in a position where that can't be our starting quarterback. AJ to a lesser degree was throwing to some really good WRs in Cincy. I want to make a graphic of curt Warner's passer rating over time with his best WR every season. Had 2 HOF receivers + HOF Faulk and has one of the best seasons yet. Struggles with middling talent in the middle of his career, and at the tail end kills it with the best HOF receiver in the league at the time

Got ourselves a CB run. Bills gotta get them a slot NRC corner quick

Yeah can't blame him for that. I'd lrobablt do the same.Was interesting how the fan base mostly had no beef with Jim from the start. I'd personally be angry for like the first 2 weeks, until I see him slinging it, then it's water under the bridge.

I need more HOT TAKES on my threads like this to get the truth out and more views