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Julio Jones Trade possibilty?
Bing Bong replied to dwight in philly's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
KB is the perfect #2, redzone target. 2nd read for a contested catch when stuff hits the fan. Toss it up when the safeties are feeling frisky. As a #1 i'm nervous at seeing him taking on the best corners for separation, getting doubled with no other option other than Clay and Shady. -
Sammy Watkins classes it up on his way out of LA
Bing Bong replied to Rigotz's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I'd bet Mahomes gives him more targets. Dak spreads it around. He likes his safety blankets like Cole Beasly and Witten. Never gelled with Dez. Kind of like when Russel Wilson didn't really care to force feed Jimmy Graham (he was horrible at it too. Would just throw wildly high) -
2nd for DT, 4th for Sanders, uh... 3rd for JuJu? 6th or 7th flyers on Nate Burleson or Ted Ginn. Idk, good question I'm thinking about players that would actually be up for trade. I covet the hell out of Enunwa or Roby Anderson, but Jets ain't doing it. Idk are you making the point that it's not realistic or are you thinking of options too? Who would you grab? ^
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I probably shouldn't comment on this cause I don't follow or care for baseball but.. I'd take 162 games in 185 games you can show up hungover for than 82 games in the NBA or the 60 or so games a soccer player plays. Or 16 games an NFL player goes through. The leagues are calibered to get the maximum profitable number of games without wrecking the players, the product. That dude on Pittsburgh pitched a perfect game on acid in the 70s lol. I'll take that sport if I had no personal love for any other sport.
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Even a journeyman is impressive if he sticks around. The average length of an NFL career is like 2 years. Those guys "suck" if we want to set a bar. You don't know about them because you never hear about them. If somebody sticks around, plays long enough for you to merely recognize his name and say he sucks.. he definitely doesn't suck and has made a lot of money being a professional athlete. Like I don't know if you're referring to journey men practice squad players.. or journey men like Josh McCown. Josh McCown doesn't suck ? I read that acclaimed book (title escapes me rn) about the life of NFL players on the margins.. it's brutal. Fascinating.
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I think Baker's a stud. But we haven't ever seen Tyrod with the caliber offense he currently has. And he's a guy very dependent on his personnel, not a bad thing at all.. if the personnel isn't what we trotted out last year And I hope Josh Allen wins camp and starts, simply for the fact that the competition with the Bills QBs is 3 complete unknowns.. I hope it's the guy with all the tangibles the whole NFL was coveting.
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No by all means I'm fine with him gone. We weren't going anywhere with him. Super happy we went balls deep for a high 1st round QB, hedged that bet keeping Peterman and signing McCarron. Just get annoyed at the revisionist narrative that starting a rookie on the road in a crucial game for playoff implications worked out real swell for us. "Well we needed to find out if our 5th round rookie played like a 5th round rookie and we did! Now we know we needed a QB!" Christ sakes I'm well aware we rode the defense by.. how do you ride the defense? not turning it over a crapload of times and letting Hyde Poyer and Tre have a flying chance to win the game. Quickest way to piss off your best players is to have them get back on the field every offensive possession. Sorry boys, let's get back to Tyrod possibly starting over Baker for the Browns lol no sarcasm there it turned to a Peterman Chargers debate really quickly.
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The double standard is wanting to take a 1-100 chance on a guy we've never seen in action over Tyrod. The guy who has had crappy games and yet also took a SB caliber Seahawks team to the wire on MNF. He didn't have a 1-100 chance against the chargers, 1-10 at worse. You're right, forget the playoffs (just don't call it prophetic lol), we weren't in a position to lose any AFC games to an AFC playoff Hunter.
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Like.. I think you're right too. Just has me more frustrated at the FO decision. Had we not drafted Peterman the logical equivalent would have been signing any undrafted rookie to start that game, and have no repercussions to your decision making because "this quarteback has never played, so he could be super good, beats having a quarterback we've seen have a few good games" so theoretically any virtually unknown quarterback is better than a quarter back that has played a game because a. He could be so so good we don't know and b. Heck we don't even need to draft a Quarterback in the offseason. Why not just sign an undrafted rookie every week every year until one day all the **** you're flinging at the wall starts to stick.
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So a 1-100 chance is fine. But you seriously don't think Tyrod wins more than 1 out of 100 games against the Jaguars? It's the double standard I dislike. Peterman's play wouldn't have made jack on their off-season decision regarding quarterback. Tyrod's performance was prophetic? and Peterman's performance was a shot worth taking because IT COULD HAVE BEEN AMAZING. Like do you see how I can turn that around? Peterman's performance was pretty prophetic for a 5th round rookie in his first start with horrible surrounding cast against an elite pass rush. But boy the 1-10 chance Tyrod has to beat the Jaguars.. gotta go with those odds right. No matter what.. unless Peterman threw for 3 to 4 TDs every game the rest of the year.. we're drafting a Quarterback. Rookies literally have NEVER done that.
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Eh Tyrod was good enough to get us in the playoffs. All I wanted for that year. And I think a FO would be out of it's mind if they hypothetically never played Peterman and didn't go quarterback next draft because "they just don't know how good this 5th rounder could be!". Or vice versa and play him "this 5th rounder isn't that bad! Let's just roll with him next year" Peterman would have had to have played insanely good. Even if he has a solid 200 yard 2 TD game, we lose.. whatever, we were gonna go QB unless an absolute miracle happened. I think it would have been the same situation if Peterman was average to good, they'd like him, and still bring in a 1st rounder to compete. You're probably right because I can't think of another explanation.. I just think it's stupid haha. We were going to do exactly what we did this off-season no matter what so why was the FO thinking anything regarding the offseason in the middle of the playoff hunt. If the explanation is they thought their 5th rounder could have been Tom Brady or Dak they were banking on an unprecedented assumption, betting on a 1 in a thousand's chance and jeapordizing the season. Like.. where was this support for Levi Brown, literally any quarterback drafted late for any team. Dolphins never threw in Fales until elimination, Broncos never threw in Chad Kelly over Semen or Paxton, Lions never threw in Brad Kaaya, Niners threw in CJ Beathard out of necessity, he played as well as a rook could, quarterbacked their first win, yet they still traded for Garoppolo! They weren't saying "well if he doesn't suck, we know we need absolutely no plan B!". It's unprecedented, teams hedge their bets. No late round rookie quarterback has started in a mid season switch for a 500+ team ever, barring injury necessity. I want to believe Peterman was crushing it in practice and then lost his swagger after the Chargers game. That the coaches were thinking about best chance of making the playoffs not "hmm we might not have to go QB in the draft.. this just might work".
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Spot on. They don't. At all. they get paid a lot of money and if they last, get it for a long time. I'll set the bar that flameouts like Tebow suck sure.. Trent Richardson. Jeff Tuel. Give that label to the players that had no business getting drafted or signing as rookie free agents. It's a speculative league and I guarantee a lot of talent gets missed on, while others get a shot they don't deserve
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Honestly I don't see anybody really lamenting losing Tyrod, or fighting people on his behalf. I'm on the Tyrod side of the spectrum and I just don't want to hear he sucks. Is that too much to ask for when there are people saying Peterman's the destined one? Go Pete, go Bills and all, but have respect for NFL players that don't have a 1:3 TD to pick ratio.i'm not going to say matt Moore sucks, Derek Anderson sucks, they are great, get paid a lot of money for a reason lol.
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Preach brutha. He'll be in the league as long as he wants to. As a bad to mediocre starter, or one of the best backups. His career is destined to be a shorter version of Fitzpatspicks .. which is awesome for a 6th round pick. I get triggered when people say he sucks. He's only one of the top 40 quarterbacks in the world. He must suck right.
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I've given up on Zay sadly. I loved his game looking at him in college, but the best thing he had going for him was phenomenal hands, safety blanket, young Brandon Marshall type. If he can't catch than he's lost his only NFL calling card. Hope he works out the demons (he should have caught the ball Panthers game). Bad throw but a prime example of how a receiver making a difficult play is awesome to have in your arsenal.
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Haha I know it. He's my best kept fantasy football secret. Don't go spreading it around now. Just me to you. Draft him low in the snake or spend 5% of your auction budget.. you're welcome btw Maybe he doesn't fly under the radar in Colorado though haha. People in Texas barely are aware of him. I agree, just salivating at a thread saying DT is an option haha Like Dez Bryant? Yuck I'd take way more than a flyer, I'd give a 2nd in a hot minute. Our offense would be drastically better. QBs need all the help they can get. With KB and DT healthy we'd have a better passing offense, better defense.. we'd go from a bubble playoff team to a 10-6.
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Oh and I forgot to mention he's getting his thousand yard seasons sharing touches with Emmanuel Sanders, which.. maybe that benefits his yardage totals with less double coverage, or hurts it if he's not the only primary. I find in fantasy football, if the #1 WR option is by miles the only option.. bad quarterbacks, especially younger ones target the heck out of them. I have KB on my shortlist for fantasy football absolutely for this reason. If Josh Allen starts he's going to be throwing jump balls to KB every pass. It's just what rooks do, especially a quarterback that fits Allen's profile. Doesn't always mean it's a good passing offense.. Allen could be 3,000 yards passing 10 TDs 15 INTs, and KB will be like 1,200 yards, 7 TDs lol. Hedging my bets; if our passing offense devolves, I have a great fantasy receiver.. If we spread the ball around with good QB play, the Bills win! And maybe KB and DT get me them ff points. That signing would turn our receiving corps from bad to amazing overnight! Would be the best WR pair I'd have seen on the Bills compared to what.. TO and Lee Evans? Moulds and Price? Watkins and Woods? maaaybe Moulds and Price. ^ see my hot take
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Haha hear me out, HEAR YE HEAR YE I'm very familiar with Thomas's career; He's been on my fantasy team for 5 years straight! I always draft him for like $5-$10 bucks out of a $200 auction because everybody sleeps on the fact that Semen's (I do this on purpose, I know.. immature) throwing. He's a sure bet for 1,000 yards every year. HE DID IT WITH TEBOW. Kelvin Benjamin's had 1 1,003 year season with Cam! I like KB and all, but if Demaryious is as undervalued as you say.. That's a steal, buy low sell high baby! I always say a great receiver will get his yards no matter the quarterback. Newsflash: Woods (love him not a slam, he could get 500, 600 yards with absolute crap QB play, blocks like a champ), Goodwin, Andre Holmes, Deonte Thompson, aren't at that level of greatness ala Damaryious Thomas, DeAndre Hopkins, Andre Johnson good. These guys have gotten 1,000 yard seasons with crap quarterback play. They'd get it from Tyrod, Semen, Tebow, Tom Savage, Drew Stanton.. you get it. I mean do you really feel strongly that Thomas's career is over? He's 30. Hopefully GMs think the same way too lol.
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All NFL Contracts Should Be Performance Based ...
Bing Bong replied to T master's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
THAT'S NOT CONTRACTUAL LABOR. That's a salaried employee. NFL players aren't salaried employees. In a contract.. a company draws up details and stipulations, and if a worker agrees to that, both parties know what they're legally bound to do to finish the contract. Albert Haynesworth's agent was a genius, Dan Snyder is an idiot. I'm sure he proposed a few stipulations, but the agent knew his client was getting signed no matter what. he took advantage of that.. and drew the contract. If you're going to wax poetic on how money should be earned based on merit, think about Snyder being the idiot and losing all that money on a contract he signed.