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no Joe, this is legit -admittedly!- my crazy conspiracy theory.

well yeah I did tell people to shut up about Tyrod and Mahomes in the last game thread, but screw those guys that only post on gameday. I'm talking about the REAL TBD posters!

common ground. I realized my post was too sissy so I had to throw in something to save it. worked like a charm

okay I suppose you're right. It is fun to see people lose it. I'm just starting to get really pissed off at posters now haha. My conspiracy theorist mind believes a paid social media team is all over TBD with the posts that look so similar, no matter the poster, or record, or score. You know what I'm talking about lol. the "you guys, this is all part of the plan. This is EXACTLY what the staff wants". The paid Bills media team is working overtime and copy and pasting their favorite lines from their shared word doc and it's pissing me off!

man this is what I'm talking about you're projecting what you think other people are thinking! I haven't seen a Rosen post at all in games, felt like 90% of people were excited to see Allen in action. I've mostly just been Beane bashing. I didn't gloat about Peterman's week 1 performance or career to date, more like.. "WHO MADE THIS DECISION" cause you know.. it was a bad decision. I'm not happy to be right when I thought Peterman shouldn't have started. But i was angry he did and let it be known.

I'm a Bucs fan. They look good!

That's what I was thinking. A quarterback some poor team at #20 is salivating for to give us the bounty. But I'd rather have the next Bruce Smith!

is there a particular player at #1 overall that would be the prize at this stage? Serious question, cause that would be amazing to get another Bruce Smith, but I don't follow college football and assume it'll be in flux until March.

I'm worried guys like Tre White will get disillusioned. Makes the playoffs in a stellar rookie year. Couldn't make an impact to help win the game if he played like Deion Sanders. It creates a losing culture if Tre White steps on the field knowing he'll lose and there's nothing he can do about it.

let's stop hating each other and find common ground in a funny Fitz story? 100% agree. Super fun to argue. But not when people are legit losing their **** with other posters. Haven't even seen this during the Rex Ryan years lol.

Hey man I'm going to submit it as a skit to SNL!

I was upset. Now I can expect to listlessly watch Bills game every week just watching Edmunds and Josh Allen and not looking at the scoreboard.

actually yeah. Stop getting mad and replying man, just ignore the post. We'll get along when the wins start coming, we did last year (remember?). I'm extending the olive branch. until then wtf is there to talk about regarding the season to date.. I'm just going to goof around on the forum because I like the forum, I like the people, I like talking about Marcus Murphy. He's been a fun player to watch. We can't spend the entire season not talking about it and discussing how good we might be next year. We're going to talk about the season.

me? it's a joke. No GM would do that lol.

Folks, TBD's getting divided like crazy, and that's understandable. We're going through a rough season. I think I can speak for many on the board when some of us get the "you're not a Bills fan" accusation. Really? We just post on a Bills board, and watch every game and desperately root to win. Every. Week. It's asinine to throw around someone's fandom. Understand that some of us have patience to see if Beane's process will work out eventually and have a strong conviction in this. Understand that others don't like a GM responsible for what we're seeing right now. Call it being competitive, some people are rooting for a win week in and week out. I was psyched to see Josh Allen with time to pull of a comeback on Sunday. And then a series of comical failures eliminated us from the game in the time it takes for me to go to the restroom. That's called an emotional roller coaster. I didn't like what happened week 1 and week 2. If that doesn't make me and anybody else a fan to feel that way, then what the heck is a fan to begin with? Anyways, post your Fitz memes below. https://goo.gl/images/7xWpV2

haha I like this OP. They got swindled. Beane is like some charlatan taking rich people's money and telling them "I have a process, no you don't see it on the field, but it's coming." And he'll just keep doing that until the Pegulas wise up.

Yes, this bothers me. Vets don't sign up for teams starting Peterman and gutting their roster. The ones currently on the team tend to retire when they see Beane's grand process unfolding and telling them "you're going to suck this year no matter how hard you try.. because I have a vision in a few years that doesn't involve you" I'd get out of that team as fast as possible. I worry Tre White is showing up every Sunday and not putting in his full effort because it doesn't matter. These guys are competitors. If your GM tells you he's tanking for no good reason (in the NFL) and you're going to suck all year, AND you made the playoffs last year, you'd be very disillusioned with your team. I honestly wonder if McDermott is frustrated with the situation, I think he probably is but will never admit it.

I vehemently disagree that "this year was always going to be a down year". Explain to me why a playoff team the year prior goes into the next year expecting to suck like it's a given and there's nothing that team could do about it. All we needed was a game manager quarterback, and some work on the offense (sign a FA WR, draft one not in the 6th round!). Instead we paid for Vontae Davis, Phillip Gaines, a Panthers rotational player in Star Lotuleilei (dude played 30-40% of snaps). We didn't keep EJ Gaines. We literally drafted NO day one offensive starters. If that is your offseason, and the only 2 quarterbacks on your roster are Josh Allen and Nathan Peterman, then yes, by that point I knew it this was going to be a "down year" (that's a VERY heavy understatement). Tell me why in March, the staff decided "this is going to be a down year, we are going to SUCK it's inevitable. Let's waste our tremendous contract values in the secondary for a year or 2, cause those guys didn't have anything to do with making the playoffs". That is the most loser approach to GM-ing - managing a roster. What if the staff said "Wow, we really exceeded expectations that year, we played winning football by managing field position, and using our tremendous strength in secondary to the best of our advantage. Going forward, let's get our quarterback, let's get someone comparable to Tyrod's level of game management (apparently TBD thinks that's not very hard! We coulda gotten anybody!) if he's not ready, let's sign a FA O-Lineman or WR we can start, let's not use our round 3 pick on Harrison Phillips and aim for another day one WR or O-Lineman starter, and see if our improved offense can have this team do even better the next year, given it's limitations last year. All of this could add up to a better year than before! We still need to make sure weget a replacement for Kyle Williams, but that facet of our defense was mitigated by our secondary strength. We can draft a Harrison Phillips type next year. We can improve our record and continue to accomplish our long term vision. It's sad. I called ourselves a poor man's version of the Jags. From the questionable quarterback play to the great secondary. And we chose not to pursue what gave us success last year. Instead we chose to suck, like beyond the point of reasonable expectations of sucking. When Beane's genius 5 year plan finally unfolds guess what happens to Tre White's, Poyer's, and Hyde's contracts? We're going to lose them. This strength of the secondary, and the value of the contracts provides us a window that we're just going to ignore. If this is "exactly what the staff wanted all along" I want them out of here in a hot minute, because we clearly can't give Josh Allen "the tools he needs to succeed" in one off-season. He's about 9 offensive tools short. The staff wanted us to be a laughing stock in the league "all along". Cool. I'd prefer a GM that tries. The Chiefs, the Bengals GMs (think any team with a GM that isn't incompetent) don't tear down their roster and purposely suck. They keep adding pieces, AND GET BETTER. It's easy to say you need 4 years of sucking to rebuild. It's a little more difficult to make the playoffs and.. ya know.. try to win and make the playoffs next year. But hey, that's what good GMs do.

That's true. I fully believe he compromises at times. But I also think he gives up on entitled talent too early (in some cases, let's both agree we're not talking in absolutes) because he's not willing to make the effort to motivate somebody that doesn't make it easy on him. He sure had a motivated roster last year. It was impressive and I thoroughly enjoyed that playoff team. They showed up every week believing they would win, and had confidence. Hyde, Poyer, White, and Gaines were my favorite players. They were dancing, having fun, playing their hearts out, and doing everything they could to win. And he did a bang up job with a depleted roster. I'm actually all for seeing McDermott operate without Beane, with a GM that gives him a chance to compete. Remember how pissed he was about the tanking talk going into last year? Loved it. But his job is virtually impossible right now, so I'm not going to roast him. I suppose I'm really speaking about Beane. I think we combine the 2 way too much. Wanting high character guys is fine, I totally understand that. NEEDING high character guys to win is poor coaching in that you are limited in the NFL talent pool. But I don't know what's a result of Beane dumping players, or McDermott telling Beane players need to go. I want to see a Beaneless McDermott more than anything. But my biggest gripe with McDermott is the Peterman infatuation. It was bizarre, baffling. The national media was incredibly confused (deservedly so IMO). I don't care if Beane, Daboll, that last OC, the quarterback coach, the ball boy is talking into his ear to play Peterman.. but it's ultimately his decision and it was incredibly stupid. That said he's a defensive guy and if we let him focus on defense and have a capable OC make the big boy decisions on offense (think McVay letting Wade Phillips run the show on D), he could be a great coach in better circumstances.

That's true he would. But at the same token I'm sure he would have traded Jalen Ramsay, and *ahem* we're pretty sure we know what he'd do with Dareus. So he wouldn't have the best defense in the league. Because he's a "my way or the highway" kind of coach.

I think it shows he's not good at evaluating character for a guy so invested in character. So he's not even being good at getting high character guys. I don't think Watkins would retire at halftime week 2, but that's just me. He didn't fit the process though, but Vontae did!

it's an exaggeration. He's making the point that McDermott is too invested in character (as he signs Vontae Davis lol). The criticisms aren't supposed to be taken literally, they're a form of argument to establish a point. ^ I'm speaking for you but I don't think he's literally roster building with Baptist Christians haha.

My god, the way you put it makes it sound infinitely worse hahaha. Well put sir. Guy's let's just admit it. We're scumbag fans for not being entertained by Sunday blowouts. We are the worst fans ever. We can't even trust the process. It's time for each and every one of us to take long hard look in the mirror.

These guys are bored out of their mind, wishing they were commentating a fun game. I was laughing so hard when they were musing how fun it would be to see Lamar Jackson play the ENTIRE SECOND HALF cause they had nothing to talk about. By that point every neutral observer just wanted to see Allen and Jackson duke it out in garbage time

Maybe, personally I would have gone the Whaley/Schwartz route though. The Rex thing was Really asinine It's obviously heavily satirical man. We have a guy that I'm positive would have traded Randy Moss in his prime for a can of beans when he got control of the roster. Like it or not but much of a coaches job is to babysit talented players that have been treated like royalty their entire football careers. Marrone does that. McD doesn't. McD would have traded Jalen Ramsay by now.