Bing Bong

I mean.. he is doing better than last year. Is that not true? He's missed kicks away from being 2-0

I don't like this. UNLESS he's had a say in personnell, Beane is the problem. Dude made the playoffs with Whaley's scraps and likely his own input on getting the likes of Tre, Hyde, Poyer, Gaines. He doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell with this roster. That's incredibly unfair. His most egregious error is starting Peterman twice.. which IMO is such a clear sign of how stupid he is regarding the offense and does justify a serious consideration of canning him. But he's a brilliant defensive mind, I'd like to see him get an established OC (think Wade Phillips in Rams with McVay) and let the dude make the decisions

I'm not going to be mean or say anything about what you should tell your son. I just disagree that we're in better shape than the Chargers. On what planet?

You don't need to suck to suck to be good for a long time lol. Ask the.. Chiefs. They have a GM

Nobody cares. He's on a front 7 that sucks. You're defense is that they're killing us on the outside? Awesome. Glad we got a guy that doesn't have any effect on how a team wants to put up 100+ rushing yards on us. We got a keeper GM huh.

So a really bad record. Cool I love watching the worst team I've ever seen.

No! we're getting pummeled on the inside. Don't ask me if anybody's play justifies their contract. None of them except for friggin Marcus Murphy. Triggered.

If we give them too much time and patience we might have several 4-12 seasons in a row Oof cap room doesn't mean there's $90 million worth of available free agents. A bad team that can't spend it's full cap simply means it doesn't have enough talent worth the money to reach the cap.. which means it's less talented than other teams. Unspent cap is not good at all.

Star was paid for a little bit more than the other team that wanted him. pro_football_focus_names_star_lotuleleis_buffalo_bills_deal_among_most_overrated.amp I haven't found a positive review of the signing. But regardless, tired of being in the cap hell Whaley got us in. We could have overpaid for more rotational players.

Marcus Murphy had a good run on that play. Nobody's going to care about this at all. Vontae Davis is THE Bills story

I heard Whaley signed Star for way too much money overpay for sure. Good riddance Whaley

Did they really want to pay him a full year's salary for doing nothing? How would you possibly know that? This year is just a stepping stone to next year. Peterman and Allen were the only 2 quarterbacks so Allen would start early and get that experience. And once we fix that offense with all that cap room and all those free agents available Josh Allen will take the next step. This is exactly what the Bills wanted and I love it.

Burn. He's talking about Vontae.. that happened. There's some weird **** going on in Buffalo. He's just the messenger They're going to keep quiet. But they knew their career was over when they saw the turnover. You got 3 years left and Glenn gets traded. Tyrod leaves. Shady's the only guy anybody would have known 2 years ago.

Haha I didn't expect anybody to remotely agree with what I just said. I'll supplement that with we don't know who's pushing the character narrative and essentially eliminating a chunk of the NFL talent pool. Might not all be McD. But we and more importantly our GMs and coaches have to admit there's not that much special NFL talent to go around. The kind of NFL talent to get you across the finish line in February. You can't limit that pool of talent to your definition of what makes a team. You need to be willing to try to get talent to buy in. Bet on yourself to lead the lockerroom. We call Belicheck a genius right? He had the guts to take a malcontent Randy Moss nobody else wanted and had the coaching talent to have him buy in and lo and behold he formed one of the greatest offenses ever. Beli does that all the time. He just signed Josh Gordon. He got Haynesworth. He's in control of the locker room and has the guts to see if these guys can get him to the finish line. Haynesworth doesn't work out.. who cares. Beli didn't let (or even consider) Albert to wreck the lockerroom with bad attitude. Cause he knew he wouldn't let it happen. And I'll just say McDermott did a fantastic job motivating his team into the playoffs with Whaley's scraps. I think he's got that coaching talent in him. I just want to see him with a good roster before we write him off. Because he's not making the roster. Hell by all appearances him and Whaley were a great pair getting Tre White and garbage pile searching for a pair of safeties in Hyde and Poyer. Add in the fact that he's a great defensive mind and WE COULD USE A NFL OFFENSE NOT RANKED 32ND BEANE. and McD could have success on a defensively oriented team.

Yeah I'm honestly not even following Dareus at all with the Jags. I don't even know who they have in the trenches tbh. They do have Calais Campbell correct? Big fan. Anyways I have to imagine Marrone is working on Dareus. Probably knows Dareus in his next contract year will be a new animal. Not sure when that'll be, but good lord if that happens, that defense could be elite at literally every position. If not, no biggie, he's out. I'd also argue Marrone a strong enough coach not to let some primadonna DT with a poor attitude affects how the defense plays. I just think that sort of confidence and bringing in a underperforming primadonna talented player is worth something given that the Jaguars defense is Studley regardless. I realize this is a really stupid argument to make but I think it's sort of shows that Marone can deal with Jalen Ramsey type players while I feel like McDermott would trade him away following his preseason stupidity

Some numbers in the win column will soon redeem us both Joe. And we shall be friends again. Until them, we shall fight incessantly. Beane is a godawful GM.

Meade's all about the tailgate! Lol. We'd be podcasting but my buddy and i aren't up for discussing Bills blowouts. Until something exciting comes up.. I'll let you know! Tell us some 2018 tailgate stories.

Joe's gone off the rails dude. Give him time. He was a cool dude last year. I think he's going through the denial stage of the grief process.

Stay tuned I"m going to make a fluff thread about the Bills. Regurgitate the same thing people keep saying over and over again. It will be great. "It's okay we're doing bad. All part of the plan! I love the direction we're going!" Are these people from the future or something?

If they had done something that didn't put out garbage on the field we wouldn't be complaining. It's not hard to grasp. We are by far the worst team in the league right now!

Welp if this afternoon has been any indication, this thread didn't work, we will never love each other again until we start winning. So screw it, **** Beane. He sucks and we're going 0-16 as part of the process of going 0-16 while he's GM. He's a genius with that plan of his.

It's Whaley's fault every time we go 4-12 for at least the next 10 years lmao

Yes Whaley was so bad. His cap hell forced Beane to get all the crappy free agents Beane overpaid for over the off-season. /s That is the oft repeated excuse.

Yeah everybody saying he's done nothing wrong to this point because Whaley was so bad he made him overpay for Star when he wasn't even employed there. That's the excuse. Doesn't mean Beane still hasn't made a lot of mistakes.

I mean Beane could go back to assistant GM for all I care. Crocodile tears.. he'd have it soo bad if he *keeps failing. McD can stay. I want to see what he can do Beaneless