Ol Dirty B

I like these people who go off in the mud, say dumb things this and that. Then when they realize they can't defend their point, they try to play the "I'm gonna be a bigger man" act.

Somebody with some sense, thank you. No one is talking legislation, we are just saying it feels kind of messed up to be talking about this when the victims haven't even been buried. It is actually on topic, it's tasteless. It's anything but political. It's us just saying be a human. It's really weird to me to even put how this could effect your teams PR, with the other two things. In terms of what you think about. The Bills are like 5000 on my list of concerns with this. Not that I'm writing my congressmen over this or anything. I understand the world we live in, for better or worse. I just don't value the Bills like that when it comes to real life stuff.

Because I find it ironic. A low information voter is someone who'd associate the Bills with the shooter because he won a tournament to represent them in a tournament and was wearing the jersey. That's classic low information evaluation, see person in Bills jersey, blame Bills. Rather than it was just random and who cares about his NFL team. I'll say your sarcasm isn't very endearing. You're being sarcastic about the wrong ****. You're belittling what others are going through. I haven't said anything political. Only this place can make empathy and sympathy out to be terrible characteristics.

And that's the point. You guys are talking PR out of your ass the day kids got killed. It should be about the victims. Who gives a !@#$ about a NFL teams PR? What does that matter? The fanbase that lights **** on fire, jumps tables, walks into buses, gets bjs in the parking lot, takes ass crack shots is all of the sudden some unblemished fanbase. All that **** is associated with us, this douche, isn't. I mean you're the one who can't understand posts. Am I supposed to compliment you for being wrong? It does say right above that comment who I quoted. It's a pretty straight forward interface on here.

Actually the low information stuff was in response to exiled. He used that term, and I didn't like it. But yea I didn't say all of what you say, but since you can't even pick up on that. I'll say part of your post is accurate.

First time I seen you mention the victims.

Wow you're a joke man. I didn't say anything political merely that people should be more concerned about the victims and their families rather than a picture of him in a Bills jersey. I'm a loser... lol you're a clown. Get a grip? Your concern in this was him being shown wearing a jersey over kids getting killed. If this is the thread that gets me banned, I'm cool with it. You're whacked dude. All your posts have been horrible, and no one's is saying anything political. Really, evaluate yourself. I guess reading isn't one of your skills? You're the fool talking about bad PR and hopes the NFL does damage control. Pretty sure that shows where your concern lays. You're terrible. I can't believe you're the one to say who is worrying about the Bills when you're the one who made that extremely... You know what it is... post. Hey while we are at it, can we get John from Riverside, and that white kid with the Katt Williams avatar to come insult me? I just want a reuninion.

Dumb post. Really dumb. Seriously delete this thread. I'm gonna say some stuff I shouldn't the more I read. But maybe you can get some ass hat to insult me then report my post. I know people who have died in **** like this. It's not cool at all. I know you think you're not joking about it, but you are. Those kids who got shot don't deserve any of your ridicule. Stop it... what you're saying is ridicolous man. I get you don't want him to be associated with the team, but that is part of his story. So many of you don't want the media to actually do their job. It's not classless by the media at all, you complaining about it is classless. No one is blaming or associating the Bills with this. He won a tournament to represent them and that's a stock photo of him. The Bills didn't draft him, employ him, or anything. It's just a coincidence. Rest in peace to all the victims, apparently we don't give a **** about that. We just care about the jersey he wore.

I can't believe this is your concern after what he did. I really can't get over this post, I'm quoting it twice. I'd describe you with that last sentence too. Who cares about the Bills and their logo when it comes to this. No one is associating the Bills with this. Your posts have been really atrocious in this thread, all I can say is embarrassing. Only a low information person would concern themselves about damage control or pr. This thread is gross. Some kids are dead and you all are on here talking about bad PR, and how it makes the team look. At this point, who !@#$ing cares. The Bills didn't arm him, my only thoughts regarding this are best wishes to the victims and their families which does nothing. But at least I'm not !@#$ing worrying about how my football team looks in all this. Can we delete this thread? I think it'd be the best thing for a lot of you. This is some of the worst trash I've read in awhile.

I mean except for this team apparently. They won't be fixing the Oline in a week it just doesn't work. These guys so many of you adore, are far from perfect. The line is a mess and the blame falls squarely on those two. I can't even hate on Castillo at this point. It's awful what he's working with. Edit- just wanted to be clear, I didn't mean you specifically when I said so many of you adore. I just see a lot of blind faith in this fan base right now

We're about to start Peterman. Hopefully Allen pans out, but at this point, no QB is not an upgrade. Not sure where on the DL the team is better. LB is only better if Edmunds pans out. You're 0/3 on improvements and didn't even include where the team has regressed. I understand they are in a transitional period, but he hasn't upgraded anything at this point.

I believe all those moves in the secondary that improved the team were made before he was in Buffalo. I could be wrong. Wasn't responsible for Hyde or Poyer in the slightest.

I didn't mind the Dareus trade that much, even though i was never a fan of the dead money. The Star signing made me dislike it even more. I understand why people wanted him out of town, Dareus wasn't playing up to that contract.

I appreciate your point in that he didn't turn it over and held it together. It's just not something I'd ever say I needed to see. He was pulled off the field for concussion protocol. I don't need that out of my top 10 pick qb in his 3rd preseason game. It doesn't mean much, but if these coaches don't lose their **** on them after this game. They can clean house. You got McCarron killed last week, Allen, the future killed this week. They are getting guys hurt, from both a football and teammate perspective, that's unacceptable. And it's unacceptable that this team thinks these guys will work. They're going to be atrocious.

And this team went 9-7, won't go near it. Did nothing but bring in Star, Kaelin Clay, Davis, and got into the playoffs on a fluke play in a game they weren't playing.... And I'm supposed to praise them? I'm saying Beane hasn't show he's better than Whaley to this point, at all. You guys are so concerned about the cap on here, it's crazy. People want to cut Clay at this point... You won't sign anyone near his value at any position at this point. It's pointless, I'd think the money is coming out of your guys hands the way you want to cut guys at the most inopportune times. The dead money is ridicolous, and what they have gotten in return for it, be it draft capital, or giving guys an opportunity, has been atrocious. They traded Dareus for nothing. We're paying him 13 mil to play in Jacksonville. They signed Star to an absurd contract to replace Dareus where he is getting 10 mil this year. He's getting another 10 if he plays next year, and 8 in dead money if he is cut. That's 23 million on one position this year, and odds are, Star doesn't even play to Dareus's level. That's awful management. The way you guys want to cut people on here and talk about contracts is absurd. They haven't shown to be good at that at all. We were just better off keeping Dareus. That was an absolutely horrendous trade.

Exactly. And this makes it hilarious to me. I was at camp with my friend and Billy scared the **** out of his toddlers, wouldn't go near him. I noticed the same reaction out of younger children too. Who cares about the mascot. You want him to intimidate? They're !@#$ing court jesters.

Eh... Ragland was a 2nd rounder and tore his ACL in camp his rookie year. But let's not let facts get in the way of the narrative we want to construct. I could be more accurate than you in creating my own and giving Whaley credit for Tre.

Whaley also constructed a 9-7 team that was far more talented. He never sat on his hands, seemed to always be trying to improve the team. I really think his weakness in areas of communications, his presser, and the Pegulas being totally inept contributed to his down fall. I really think he came into a lot of dysfunction, if he was able to do the job the way a GM should be, I think he'd succeed. He brought in way more talent to this team than this current regime did. I know it's not a popular opinion, but when you look at it, what has the regime done? They really got lucky. Next year and the year after will be when we can crown them if they are good at their job.

I'm so lost on this. I don't have any clue where to find the logic in this. You wanted to see him get !@#$ed up? I'm just gonna agree to disagree with you. I don't see value in a top 10 selected QB getting sacked on 5 of 17 drop backs. No thanks.

Spot on. I have no idea what the OP is saying he says this is exactly what he needed to see from Allen.

Weren't Green and Julio the only receivers who really gave Tre a problem last year? I could be mistaken. They are both really good, physical freaks though. If that type of receiver is the only kind he has trouble with, I can live with it.

Fair enough. I misunderstood you. I agree with that assessment.

I think he's a better QB when surrounded by talent. Those guys game are getting the ball out quick and short passing because they can't do anything else. Allen's skills require a little more time for plays to develop to utilize them. In my opinion. But I agree, with the offense they might have to run, those guys are better suited.

Of course it was vanilla. I'm not sure there was anything odd about it. I have a buddy who coaches and goes to all those seminars and ****. I can't remember who but he met an Arizona positional coach this summer, and they were talking preseason. He said the AZ coach told him that they only run about 4 plays the entire game on offense that are actually out of their play book.

I agree. Today wasn't on Allen. However, I did not need to see him take all of those hits and be let down by teammates. I'm not sure what anyone gets out of this