Thurman Kelly

Didn't see these things? Maybe you weren't looking for them. Wait for the All 22's and watch the game again. It will be an eye opener for you.

The most effective thing the Bills could do is bring defensive line pressure straight up the middle. This may not result in sacks, but it would require Brady to change his throws. Will the Bills be able to achieve this? I don't think so. Is there any real chance of outscoring Brady with our anemic offense? I don't think so.

Yesterday's game, while a win and vastly improved defensive performance, highlighted that the Bills still have serious problems on offense. These include offensive play calling, run blocking discipline, getting "push" behind runners after first contact, and yes - Tyrod Taylor. You could as easily have a thread on any of these issues, but this thread is about Tyrod. In short, while Tyrod played "good enough" to win against a completely stagnant KC offense, he still: a) failed to the throw the ball away instead of taking sacks (in situations where he had the time to do so), b) moved INTO pocket pressure unnecessarily, c) was too inaccurate with SHORT passes (leading to incompletions, lower YAC, and WR injuries), d) failed to extend the ball for another yard when he ran out of bounds near the first down marker, e) had a hard time recognizing which receivers would break open on intermediate routes (10 - 20 yards), f) was/is too small to run QB sneaks on short 3rd down or 4th down yardage, and g) repeatedly checked down to RBs behind the line of scrimmage who had less than 50/50 chances of getting back to the line (instead of throwing into the ground at their feet), or checked down on 3rd down to receivers who had no hope of getting a first down (when looking for field goal distance was not the issue). As to Tyrod's strengths, he makes some plays with his feet that many other QBs could not; however, a lot (not all, but many) of these plays occur after he's failed to spot open receivers, and/or failed to move effectively in the pocket. A lot of fans would prefer a QB who didn't have to try to make up for these shortcomings with his legs, because it's just not clear that his running yardage properly compensates for all his sub 200 yard passing efforts. I agree that Tyrod is good enough to beat a number of teams in the NFL, at least on some days. I just don't believe that he gives the Bills any hope of beating any of the elite teams. As it is, I fully expect to lose both games to the Patriots. That gives us a minimum of 7 losses. Even if we otherwise run the table (possible, but unlikely), who really thinks we'll get into the playoffs at 9 - 7? That's the kind of QB Tyrod is: 8-8, 9-7. Shouldn't fans be demanding that the team set a higher standard for this position? Our next three games are NE, Colts and Dolphins. If we are 2-1 over this stretch, I guess you have to start Tyrod to the end (to play for 9-7). However, if we are 1-2 (or worse), I think will will be time to shut Tyrod down and see if Peterman is worth keeping on the roster next year (as a backup).

That's not how most handle it. Most say they are prepared to start and contribute to the team, but also say that it's a decision for the coaches to make. Not many criticize the coaches decision as "wrong", and that's what he said.

A player can always say what they feel, but they also have to deal with the consequences of choosing to speak out. In essence, he's saying the coaching staff is making a mistake, and that his judgement on this decision is better than theirs. How would you expect a coach to feel about that? Also, it seems reasonably likely that the team will be no worse off with Peterman, and might possibly be better. If that's what happens, Tyrod not only looks like a guy who couldn't get it done, but a guy with bad judgment as well. Why expose yourself to the extra criticism? Lots of people are in love with the idea of "always speaking your mind", but it's better judgement to pick your spots. He'll be forgiven if Peterman is terrible, but there was no need to put his own credibility on the line. Bad call by Tyrod.

No, I wanted him to say nothing at all about whether he thought the coaches were right. What players usually say is that it's a coaching decision, and that they are going to continue to work hard, help the guy coming in as much as they can, and be ready to go back in. Saying he disagrees with the coaches makes him look like he and the coaches aren't on the same page. There's no upside to that message. He should have left it out.

See the posts earlier in the thread about: 1) the accuracy of that 1" height difference, 2) the differences in their respective postures and throwing techniques, and 3) what QB's like Brees do differently than Tyrod in order to pass over the middle.

I didn't like the "I don't agree with the decision" part of his remarks. He should have left that out. Now, if Peterman plays better than he did, he's not only a guy that underperformed, but also a guy that didn't even recognize the problems he was having.

It's about posture and throw prep as well. Ever watched how Drew Brees does it? He actually drives upward as he throws to get a little elevation when he throws over the middle. Check it out.

Finally, a QB who can: 1) see over the top of the O line between the tackles, 2) throw an accurate ball on time between 10 and 20 yards, and 3) won't collapse the pocket on himself by abandoning the protection too early every drop back. Sure, he's a 5th rounder, but at least these differences give me hope for the passing game (and I think if we could convince any opponents that we may be able to pass, perhaps things would loosen up for Shady as well).