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Horrendous sequence of play calls...as mediocre as Allen has looked tonight the playcalling has been just as abysmal

That plus he's way off...Josh natural motion is from that angle he doesn't throw over the top

This and your op is spot on..that's the one refinement missing from his game right now ..elway was very similar as a young qb he would throw every pass like a missile he learned with experience how to change speeds and vary velocity..Josh just needs reps to continue to refine his mechanics..and that comes with experience...he tends to get jacked up during home games as well I've noticed on the road his feet seem more calm. Not every qb comes out as polished as Andrew luck ..it took Brees nearly 4 years to put everything together in SD

This game was lost in the trenches first and foremost the pass protection was awful today but they weren't helped by the lack of execution against the blitz

Why do you think he's missing too far it's not a difficult concept ..it's simple physics a ball thrown with lower trajectory is going to reach it's target faster which impedes a receiver from running under the pass...it's the same concept with a punt a higher trajectory allows the coverage team time to reach versus a lower one which is much more returnable ...you're clearly not capable of the requisite maturity to have a discussion you think it makes you tough to call strangers names online o truly hope youre like 16 or something because if you're a grown man communicating like this good luck (y)

No one is " bitching" grow up ..it's fair to evaluate certain things ..you should perhaps evaluate your comprehension of throwing mechanics .

It's not about " lofting " certain passes require certain trajectory irrespective of the conditions if you throw a pass with too much velocity and not enough elevation that's the result . the throw he missed to Foster he's made before including in his rookie year

Josh not putting the required arc on his passes again so far .

No because reliability is crucial ...why pay him the money he will command when we've gotten more production outta smoke who's available..Watkins has all the talent in the world but can't stay on the field and continues to be inconsistent the guy has 150 yard two td monster potential as we saw here but he also has 2 catch 30 yard potential

The gameplan has to start with dictating the pace ..the Ravens like to score fast with deep seam passes to their tight end out of their 21 personnel sets or go deep to Hollywood . we need to stay on the field converting on 3rd down will be crucial. We need to stop the run first and foremost it doesn't appear that any team has really boxed Lamar in yet ..we have two excellent safeties that should be able to limit their verticality ..we need to make Lamar have to stand in the pocket and keep him away from those easy dump off completions and wide open seam shots ...the media is salivating over him but their passing game really isn't very complex it's just excellent disguise and scheming . On offence Josh needs to continue his excellent trajectory and take what's there and not force things and give them short fields

Lamar is spectacular as an overall talent there's no debating that..but the NFL is cyclical..it remains to be seen what he will look like a year from now. All it takes is one defensive coordinator to formulate the game plan to neutralize him and the floodgates open . The Ravens passing game is great but questions remain ...they don't really attack all areas of the field ..the majority of their production comes from Seam passes and slants and high low reads over the middle of the field .

Yep ..McDermott runs a cover 3 zone based 4-3 ...that's the scheme ..his scheme is moreso predicated upon getting pressure via the front 4 through stunts and games ..they do blitz though double a gap blitzes and safety blitzes at times ..

Like I said in another thread ...daboll is the wrong oc for this personnel..McDermott saw firsthand in Carolina how they were able to maximize cam Newton despite his limitations as a passer yet here he is as a hc trying to turn Josh Allen into tom Brady when he's more like cam Newton in playstyle

Precisely

Bottom line daboll needs to go ...he has never been in charge of an even middle of the pack offense...greenbay has Aaron fricking Rodgers behind center ..yet Carolinas weakness is against the run just like the browns ...they have run rhe ball 21 times so far and the games not finished Rodgers has attempted 20 passes if daboll had called a balanced gameplan today fine I could live with that ..but to rush only what less than 15 times ? All game..this is an issue I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt when hired..I rationalized that he had been given very poor starting QBs in Anderson or Brian hoyer ? I think etc and yet here we are again two years around ranked bottom of the league in offence .

The offence has been a concern all year we just won on oppurtunistic plays..and now that the defence has regressed somewhat to the mean we are losing games...every game this year has been super tight..the fact is we've played some very questionable defensive units and failed to exploit . When you look at how the Ravens score 49 on the Bengals and we had to scrape together two tds by the offence it's not suprising we have lost 2 of the last 3

I don't understand how..week after week Allen can't figure out that he needs to put air under his deep passes ...at this point it's head scratching

The pats always have a loss like this every year that allows them to refocus and come back more focused. Greg Roman clearly has a gift for creating brilliant offensive schemes for athletic QBs Kap shredded the pats..he had tyrod actually looking competent ..now being meshed with Lamar Jackson a far more accurate and competent atheltic player than tyrod the offence is humming .. the Ravens have a very well built roster top 3 oline and good weapons ..our issue on offence is styll a somewhat shaky oline and weapons .

Yep and he did it again earlier..there's something very odd about his mechanics..On the deep ball he missed for a wide open TD to Roberts he drops the ball much lower then his usual throwing motion then throws this wobbly bullet with no arc . Daboll needs to have him after practice just practice putting air under the ball with the qb coach over and over till it becomes natural ..he's shown the ability to throw with touch everywhere except deep

"those games" are usually achieved with chunk plays..Josh is capable of producing those numbers but it requires fixing his deep ball issues..he hits on those two deep balls today hes at or near a 300 yard performance with atleast 3 tds

His ball trajectory issues are part mechanics part mental part feel/chemistry..there have been QBs with stronger arms or fairly equivalent like elway and young favre who knew how to throw the deep ball with touch and arc..it's an ongoing process when favre started in gb in practice he'd throw everything as a bullet pass.. Josh just has to learn to trust and get a consistent feel for his deep ball ..through his first 2 years every deep ball has had wildly different arc and velocity from great touch on the throw to Foster last year vs the jags and a great throw to Foster in the Vikings game that was dropped to not enough air on the ball missing John brown deep

I've shared my thoughts before - It's obvious hes getting blackballed..saying hes not good enough is completely disingenuous . He went td for td with brady...beat aaron rodgers in a playoff game with one of the most incredible playoff performances ever...his last season with a decrepit team he had 16 tds 4 ints...at his peak he was a more accurate version of lamar jackson..hes def better than marcus mariotta..and jameis winston and other qbs - This is purely about money and revenge..the owners feel he cost them money and brought bad publicity down on the league with his protest against police brutality..the president and some of the owners like jerry jones..kept trying to make the protest about the flag when it was about protesting inaction regarding the senseless death of unarmed african americans because they wanted to end it period because it was bad for business. -He wont be in the league ever again despite the nfl employing serial domestic abusers..rapists...child abusers...and people who have actually committed crimes because they blame him for the controversy brought on the league. Go watch his first couple seasons in san fran and then tell me hes not good enough to play in this league..we would be estastic if we got that kinda performance against the patriots from josh that he had.

Correct which is an overwhelming reason behind the 49ers success this year they are gashing teams with that inside zone run scheme that the shanahans have run for years learned from Alex gibbs..this year the teams who are successful are employing a more balanced attacks with the run being a big proponent ..pats bills 49ers..Vikings Packers...theres just not many teams who have the personnel to hold up in a super pass heavy offence week after week..mahomes has been getting hit constantly now because the chiefs have not established any semblance of a run game and if Reid doesn't adjust his ankle will be joined by many other injuries

Alot of it is right now is o-line play and personnel across the league..were seeing teams like the browns with great offensive talent on paper falling apart due to not being able to protect their signal callers ..The Texans offence has completely turned around since the trade for tunsil..