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Lol here comes the good ole kc bailout calls
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This has always been Josh Allen's weakness..he missed diggs deep wide open numerous times last season..outside of I guess 2020? I dont have the actual data just from memory he has overthrown numerous deep would be touchdowns.
Oddly enough he throws them pretty accurately in the playoffs when there is more pressure..like the clutch bomb to davis vs chiefs..and the perfect pass to diggs he dropped last year...
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For as strong as Josh's arm is one thing hes always struggled with is deep ball accuracy he can hit them but not as consistent as you would like ... most of the time he doesn't put enough air then he overcompensates and puts too much air
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If this is how our defence is gonna play we have no shot. There's been wide open cardinals on every play.
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Josh's playoff numbers are historical it's a team game..he has 21 tds and 4 int in his playoff careers ..for reference Roethlisberger had 36 tds 28int peyton 40-25.. he's a historic level qb the only reason he hasn't won a superbowl is the defence. People forget how the pats defence carried brady at the beggining of his career
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4 hours ago, Maine-iac said:
Not at the game but everything you are saying here checks out after watching the game on TV. Thing is if your QB is banged up you'd like to lean on the running game and then your RB fumbles. Overall the defense played well enough, especially given the positions they were put in. What I wouldn't give for it to appear that Allen just naturally understood getting the ball out quicker. He seems back to running around passing up short easy passes for chances at bombs that sometimes work but frequently don't. I mean every pass play could be a 50 yard TD if you run scramble drill for 6 or 7 seconds but it's not a sustainable offense. Hit your guy (TE, RB, Slot WR) at 3 or 4 yards and let him run for a couple more and keep the chains moving. It seems like the less seriously we take the defense the less likely Josh is to stay on program and I'm starting to think it's part of why we choke against lesser teams. Allen has a lot of Pickle Rick in him and seems to have a hard time taking the boring throws that move the sticks. Not saying he can't do it, just that he fights it in games where it seems like the win should come easier.
Yeah that is Josh's one weakness in his game. It's Just his playstyle and mentality not sure it will ever change. Peyton Manning was like that compared to Brady . He always wanted the chunk play while Brady wud dink and dunk u to death. Favre was like that..Prime Roethlisberger did the run around waiting for big plays like josh frequently rather than take check downs.
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It's Josh overcompensating for his arm strength most likely..in the his first few years Allen would at times over throw ( not enough arc) john brown and diggs the first season he came to Buffalo so he tends to leave them a bit shorter at times. But in alot of these cases its just him missing because hes unable to step in due to pressure
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41 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
Your statement to which I was responding about performance art was "and daboll wud get on him I don't see anyone holding him accountable now other than diggs and that's not good for the team ."
My point is, you seem to be conflating what you SEE (or don't see) with what is actually happening in team and position meetings and in meetings with HC/OC/QB coach etc.
We don't know what's happening there.
As far as Yips, this from Mayo Clinic:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/yips/symptoms-causes/syc-20379021
I don't think Josh is suffering from involuntary muscle spasams or focal dystonia leading to throwing INT etc.
I think Dan Orlovsky has a much better assessment and is worth a watch
Im clearly refering to the slang usage of yips from a sporting perspective I've already mentioned that..not the medical definition...its not rocket science lol
And again I'm not talking about what wen we saw daboll confront Josh on TV.. I'm talking about what I've read about happening behind the scenes there's no guarantees its all true but consensus was daboll and him had a special relationship and he really knew how to hold Josh accountable. Its speculative like anything else but Josh doesn't seem to be learning from his careless mistakes..his TD to interception ratio since the 2nd half of last year is extremely worrisome .
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1 hour ago, Beck Water said:
First of all, I don't think you know what "yips" are. You're not using that word correctly.
Second, holding a player accountable should not be "performance art" for the fans and casual bystanders. That's why, after one game where Daboll was seen screaming at Josh on the sideline, he was sent up to the booth.
Yips in sports term literally means anxiousness affecting performance usually used in golf lingo.. nothing to do with performance arts either..no one is talking about public displays of anger just that accountability seems to be lacking .
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Allen has regressed since the " covid lockdown year" it's a combination of mental and physical...the lack of crowds meant psychologically he was able to zone out and play within structure without the " yips" he struggles with when he gets hyped up..
and daboll wud get on him I don't see anyone holding him accountable now other than diggs and that's not good for the team .
Dorsey isn't a good o.c but Josh continually bypasses checkdowbs and underneath routes to go for homerun balls similar to late career Favre.
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Josh has been in the league too long to be making these type of mistakes...if a defender makes a great play sure..but hes misreading coverages and forcing throws that arent there smh.
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On 1/28/2023 at 11:15 AM, oldmanfan said:
I’ve been frustrated as many have by the defensive issues seen in the post seasons the past 4 years. I know McD learned at the feet of Jim Johnson, the famed DC for the Eagles. So I went back and reviewed some of Johnson’s philosophies.
Like our current D, Johnson believed in making offenses take their time getting downfield, believing that opened up more chances for the opposing offense to make mistakes. But once past the 50 yard line, then Johnson would get aggressive. He was a big believer in zone blitz schemes, was probably the inventor of it. He had very creative blitz calls, would sometimes send two corners out of the blue. He’d move guys around on the line to create mismatches. And his D always ranked near or at the top, despite personnel changes every year.
So I’m wondering why McD’s team has strayed so far away from his mentor’s philosophy. We rarely see creative blitz packages. We rarely move personnel around to creat mismatches; we just play the same 4 man rush and it hasn’t worked in the playoffs. Our defense is passive; Johnson attacked.
I wonder if McD has acceded to Frazier’s philosophy. If so, then a good reason to let Frazier go and get back to his mentor’s concepts. I don’t see us winning the Lombardi unless we change our defensive philosophy.
The defence we run here in buffalo definitely is less aggresive than what McDermott has run when he was a d coordinator. Fraziers background is in strictly Tampa 2 and it shows..we run predominantly cover 3 or cover 2 zone looks oit of the nickel formation
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11 minutes ago, Roundybout said:
Disagree. We absolutely have the talent to do it, Frazier simply won’t do it. He’s called the same defense for 6 years.Frazier is a huge part of the issue. But its running the scheme with lack of dline pressure..we predominantly run cover 3 zone concepts out of nickel formations we've run that far more than any team in the NFL since McDermott got here..the pressure has to come from the d lineman in that scheme we just haven't got it remotely consistently .
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The bigger issue is Beane and McDermott missing on a majority of our defensive draft picks.. The Eagles actually play defense similarly to us they dont blitz often difference being their d line is ferocious and get pressure with the front 4 . Beane has drafted so many d lineman with barely anything to show for it
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12 hours ago, billieve420 said:
McDermott comes from Jim Johnson 4-3 attacking type system. I still believe it is more about the play caller versus system itself. McDermott should be on hot seat next year and take on calling plays. I just can’t see anything changing much if things remain status quo. Hopefully someone hires Frazier to be their HC but don’t see that happening.Yeah im aware he learned under jim johnson but his scheme is very different. His defense atleast since Carolina has been a cover 3 zone based system with pressure expected to come from the front 4 ..fraziers background is in Tampa 2 ..they run nickel based zone defences more than any team in the nfl since they've been here.
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Fraziers/ McDermott's philosophy has been an issue.
They design the defense around limiting big plays..we blitz far less than other teams..this worked fairly effectively when the entire defense was relatively healthy and tre was able to provide upper level coverage along with both safeties playing at an elite level..the scheme obviously needs to be tweaked when we can't even keep teams in front of us anymore . We don't get consistent pressure and barely beat the dolphins with their backup QB tyreek and waddle torched us in every matchup
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On 1/26/2022 at 10:30 AM, bigfootindy said:
Update for this year… check the comp again…. Very, very strange.
I think a better comparison would be the early to mid 2000 Colts teams. This team reminds me so much of that Colts team. If you look at the playoff record they had before they won their Super Bowl, its eerily similar. Taken from https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt/playoffs.htm and https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/playoffs.htm for reference:
Colts 2000 -> Lost in Wildcard round Bills 2017 -> Lost in Wildcard round
Colts 2001 -> Missed playoffs Bills 2018 -> Missed playoffs
Colts 2002 -> Lost in Wildcard round Bills 2019 -> Lost in Wildcard round
Colts 2003 -> Went to AFC Championship, lost to NE Bills 2020 -> Went to AFC Championship, lost to KC
Colts 2004 -> Lost to NE in divisional round Bills 2021 -> Lost to KC in divisional round
Taking a look at what the future might hold, if past is prologue:
Colts 2005 -> Lost in divisional round to Pitt Bills 2022 -> Lost in divisional round to Cinci
Colts 2006 -> Beat NE in AFC Championship, won Super Bowl Bills 2023 -> Beat KC in AFC Championship, win Super Bowl?
I'd take that, wouldn't you? 😆
Spot on just made this comparison in the post game thread
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Im seeing disturbing similarities to the 2000s Colts and that's not a great thing. Conservative coach running a zone based scheme that get's gashed in the playoffs..all time great qb that the team is super over reliant on . Getting dominated at the line of scrimmage.
In don't know if coach is the right man for the Job he's done alot and he will always be revered in this city but we just havent gotten it done defensively which is supposed to be his area of strength and we are squandering the best QB in franchise history if no changes are made .
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That was probably one of my top 5 least enjoyable bills game i can remember it had no buisness being this close.
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The tackling probably goes hand in hand with the way they play defense . The bills run one of the most conservative defensive schemes in the league. Just watch the way the 49ers aggresively fly to the ball we seem to always be relying on milano or edmunds to make the perfect tackle when they miss its bye bye
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1 hour ago, Dopey said:
Marino and Elway. I don’t think Elway gets enough credit. The guy had wheels along with a cannon for an arm. If he played with the rules we have today, he would be top 3 right now. With Mahomes and Josh.
Elway had an absolute bazooka of an arm and i agree he played in the wrong era
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Gabe has Been the biggest dissapoontment on the bills this season..he was supposed to take the next step and he's been a liability horrendous catch percentage and inability to get open consistently
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Honestly seems like at this point the loss of daboll is huge for allen accountability wise . He was the coach that would rip into him and hold him accountable for poor reads or throws.
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Kansas City/Tampa Bay on Monday Night Football
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Officiating has been horrendous across the board this season. I don't know whats going on if we need more replay involvement or w.e but these blown calls are atrocious..two absolutely phantom blown calls against the bills yesterday..and you could argue it was pi on the ball to Coleman. You're seeing games decided by horrific officiating..needs to change.