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Josh's playoff numbers are historical it's a team game..he has 21 tds and 4 int in his playoff careers ..for reference Roethlisberger had 36 tds 28int peyton 40-25.. he's a historic level qb the only reason he hasn't won a superbowl is the defence. People forget how the pats defence carried brady at the beggining of his career
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4 hours ago, Maine-iac said:
Not at the game but everything you are saying here checks out after watching the game on TV. Thing is if your QB is banged up you'd like to lean on the running game and then your RB fumbles. Overall the defense played well enough, especially given the positions they were put in. What I wouldn't give for it to appear that Allen just naturally understood getting the ball out quicker. He seems back to running around passing up short easy passes for chances at bombs that sometimes work but frequently don't. I mean every pass play could be a 50 yard TD if you run scramble drill for 6 or 7 seconds but it's not a sustainable offense. Hit your guy (TE, RB, Slot WR) at 3 or 4 yards and let him run for a couple more and keep the chains moving. It seems like the less seriously we take the defense the less likely Josh is to stay on program and I'm starting to think it's part of why we choke against lesser teams. Allen has a lot of Pickle Rick in him and seems to have a hard time taking the boring throws that move the sticks. Not saying he can't do it, just that he fights it in games where it seems like the win should come easier.
Yeah that is Josh's one weakness in his game. It's Just his playstyle and mentality not sure it will ever change. Peyton Manning was like that compared to Brady . He always wanted the chunk play while Brady wud dink and dunk u to death. Favre was like that..Prime Roethlisberger did the run around waiting for big plays like josh frequently rather than take check downs.
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It's Josh overcompensating for his arm strength most likely..in the his first few years Allen would at times over throw ( not enough arc) john brown and diggs the first season he came to Buffalo so he tends to leave them a bit shorter at times. But in alot of these cases its just him missing because hes unable to step in due to pressure
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41 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
Your statement to which I was responding about performance art was "and daboll wud get on him I don't see anyone holding him accountable now other than diggs and that's not good for the team ."
My point is, you seem to be conflating what you SEE (or don't see) with what is actually happening in team and position meetings and in meetings with HC/OC/QB coach etc.
We don't know what's happening there.
As far as Yips, this from Mayo Clinic:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/yips/symptoms-causes/syc-20379021
I don't think Josh is suffering from involuntary muscle spasams or focal dystonia leading to throwing INT etc.
I think Dan Orlovsky has a much better assessment and is worth a watch
Im clearly refering to the slang usage of yips from a sporting perspective I've already mentioned that..not the medical definition...its not rocket science lol
And again I'm not talking about what wen we saw daboll confront Josh on TV.. I'm talking about what I've read about happening behind the scenes there's no guarantees its all true but consensus was daboll and him had a special relationship and he really knew how to hold Josh accountable. Its speculative like anything else but Josh doesn't seem to be learning from his careless mistakes..his TD to interception ratio since the 2nd half of last year is extremely worrisome .
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1 hour ago, Beck Water said:
First of all, I don't think you know what "yips" are. You're not using that word correctly.
Second, holding a player accountable should not be "performance art" for the fans and casual bystanders. That's why, after one game where Daboll was seen screaming at Josh on the sideline, he was sent up to the booth.
Yips in sports term literally means anxiousness affecting performance usually used in golf lingo.. nothing to do with performance arts either..no one is talking about public displays of anger just that accountability seems to be lacking .
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Allen has regressed since the " covid lockdown year" it's a combination of mental and physical...the lack of crowds meant psychologically he was able to zone out and play within structure without the " yips" he struggles with when he gets hyped up..
and daboll wud get on him I don't see anyone holding him accountable now other than diggs and that's not good for the team .
Dorsey isn't a good o.c but Josh continually bypasses checkdowbs and underneath routes to go for homerun balls similar to late career Favre.
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Josh has been in the league too long to be making these type of mistakes...if a defender makes a great play sure..but hes misreading coverages and forcing throws that arent there smh.
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On 1/28/2023 at 11:15 AM, oldmanfan said:
I’ve been frustrated as many have by the defensive issues seen in the post seasons the past 4 years. I know McD learned at the feet of Jim Johnson, the famed DC for the Eagles. So I went back and reviewed some of Johnson’s philosophies.
Like our current D, Johnson believed in making offenses take their time getting downfield, believing that opened up more chances for the opposing offense to make mistakes. But once past the 50 yard line, then Johnson would get aggressive. He was a big believer in zone blitz schemes, was probably the inventor of it. He had very creative blitz calls, would sometimes send two corners out of the blue. He’d move guys around on the line to create mismatches. And his D always ranked near or at the top, despite personnel changes every year.
So I’m wondering why McD’s team has strayed so far away from his mentor’s philosophy. We rarely see creative blitz packages. We rarely move personnel around to creat mismatches; we just play the same 4 man rush and it hasn’t worked in the playoffs. Our defense is passive; Johnson attacked.
I wonder if McD has acceded to Frazier’s philosophy. If so, then a good reason to let Frazier go and get back to his mentor’s concepts. I don’t see us winning the Lombardi unless we change our defensive philosophy.
The defence we run here in buffalo definitely is less aggresive than what McDermott has run when he was a d coordinator. Fraziers background is in strictly Tampa 2 and it shows..we run predominantly cover 3 or cover 2 zone looks oit of the nickel formation
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11 minutes ago, Roundybout said:
Disagree. We absolutely have the talent to do it, Frazier simply won’t do it. He’s called the same defense for 6 years.Frazier is a huge part of the issue. But its running the scheme with lack of dline pressure..we predominantly run cover 3 zone concepts out of nickel formations we've run that far more than any team in the NFL since McDermott got here..the pressure has to come from the d lineman in that scheme we just haven't got it remotely consistently .
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The bigger issue is Beane and McDermott missing on a majority of our defensive draft picks.. The Eagles actually play defense similarly to us they dont blitz often difference being their d line is ferocious and get pressure with the front 4 . Beane has drafted so many d lineman with barely anything to show for it
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12 hours ago, billieve420 said:
McDermott comes from Jim Johnson 4-3 attacking type system. I still believe it is more about the play caller versus system itself. McDermott should be on hot seat next year and take on calling plays. I just can’t see anything changing much if things remain status quo. Hopefully someone hires Frazier to be their HC but don’t see that happening.Yeah im aware he learned under jim johnson but his scheme is very different. His defense atleast since Carolina has been a cover 3 zone based system with pressure expected to come from the front 4 ..fraziers background is in Tampa 2 ..they run nickel based zone defences more than any team in the nfl since they've been here.
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Fraziers/ McDermott's philosophy has been an issue.
They design the defense around limiting big plays..we blitz far less than other teams..this worked fairly effectively when the entire defense was relatively healthy and tre was able to provide upper level coverage along with both safeties playing at an elite level..the scheme obviously needs to be tweaked when we can't even keep teams in front of us anymore . We don't get consistent pressure and barely beat the dolphins with their backup QB tyreek and waddle torched us in every matchup
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On 1/26/2022 at 10:30 AM, bigfootindy said:
Update for this year… check the comp again…. Very, very strange.
I think a better comparison would be the early to mid 2000 Colts teams. This team reminds me so much of that Colts team. If you look at the playoff record they had before they won their Super Bowl, its eerily similar. Taken from https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt/playoffs.htm and https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/playoffs.htm for reference:
Colts 2000 -> Lost in Wildcard round Bills 2017 -> Lost in Wildcard round
Colts 2001 -> Missed playoffs Bills 2018 -> Missed playoffs
Colts 2002 -> Lost in Wildcard round Bills 2019 -> Lost in Wildcard round
Colts 2003 -> Went to AFC Championship, lost to NE Bills 2020 -> Went to AFC Championship, lost to KC
Colts 2004 -> Lost to NE in divisional round Bills 2021 -> Lost to KC in divisional round
Taking a look at what the future might hold, if past is prologue:
Colts 2005 -> Lost in divisional round to Pitt Bills 2022 -> Lost in divisional round to Cinci
Colts 2006 -> Beat NE in AFC Championship, won Super Bowl Bills 2023 -> Beat KC in AFC Championship, win Super Bowl?
I'd take that, wouldn't you? 😆
Spot on just made this comparison in the post game thread
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Im seeing disturbing similarities to the 2000s Colts and that's not a great thing. Conservative coach running a zone based scheme that get's gashed in the playoffs..all time great qb that the team is super over reliant on . Getting dominated at the line of scrimmage.
In don't know if coach is the right man for the Job he's done alot and he will always be revered in this city but we just havent gotten it done defensively which is supposed to be his area of strength and we are squandering the best QB in franchise history if no changes are made .
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That was probably one of my top 5 least enjoyable bills game i can remember it had no buisness being this close.
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The tackling probably goes hand in hand with the way they play defense . The bills run one of the most conservative defensive schemes in the league. Just watch the way the 49ers aggresively fly to the ball we seem to always be relying on milano or edmunds to make the perfect tackle when they miss its bye bye
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1 hour ago, Dopey said:
Marino and Elway. I don’t think Elway gets enough credit. The guy had wheels along with a cannon for an arm. If he played with the rules we have today, he would be top 3 right now. With Mahomes and Josh.
Elway had an absolute bazooka of an arm and i agree he played in the wrong era
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Gabe has Been the biggest dissapoontment on the bills this season..he was supposed to take the next step and he's been a liability horrendous catch percentage and inability to get open consistently
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Honestly seems like at this point the loss of daboll is huge for allen accountability wise . He was the coach that would rip into him and hold him accountable for poor reads or throws.
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39 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:
Another example proving my theory about producers and analysts. Everyone loved Romo for a year and two, then per usual the producers got ahold of him. They then send in for alterations and need to refine him soon the refreshing part is gone- shame he was pretty decent when he started.
Not even just the producers..alot of voices in his ear im sure had an impact . Brent musberger kept telling him to stop the play prediction thing . And other broadcasters kept saying he kept interrupting nantz.
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Pathetic decision by mcdermott..last possession we were helped by two drops by tampas receiving core...its simple math ita already a two
possession game tampa gets a fg here its a marathon to come back they get a td its over ..
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Just now, Doc Brown said:
Did Hill just push a coach?
He did lol he had a meltdown
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2 hours ago, Virgil said:
If I'm being completely honest, I didn't expect the Bills to win this game for most of the week. Like many others, I bought into the hype of the surging Ravens who were playing like the 14-2 team they were last season with the MVP at the helm. With the playoff win monkey off their back, their defense back at full strength, and windy conditions that favored the running game, I expected a close game where the Bills game up just short. However, when I woke up Saturday morning, all of that went away and for some reason, expected them to win. I didn't care about their depth at defensive back or Lamar's scrambling ability. I thought about the entire season from when we were able to contain Kyler Murray and what we've done against top rated defenses, and I found myself incredibly calm for the rest of the day. Win or lose, I was incredibly proud of the season we've had.
1 - The Play - Let me set the scene leading up to the pick six. The game was tied at 3 going into the half, where most would argue the Bills should have been up by more. It was the kind of first half where the BBFS reminded you of previous teams that couldn't take advantage of early opportunities and it would come back to bite them. The Bills did come out of the half and drove downfield for a touchdown, continuing their 3rd quarter resurgence. However, not to be outdone, the Ravens put together a drive of their own and made it into the Bills red zone. On the play before, Marquise Brown was wide open on a crossing route and Lamar missed him as Hughes was right in his face. The next snap occurs, Lamar drops back, and my eyes are all on Mark Andrews. Lamar slings it in his direction, and I honestly can't see who caught the ball, as Milano and Hyde were also anticipating the throw. I jumped up and yelled, scaring my unsuspecting daughter, as I saw a blue jersey emerge from the crowd. In that split second, before he crossed the goal line, my cowardliness mentally screamed out for him to take the knee so that we could get the ball at the 20 and not be pinned against the end zone. However, this is a team that plays for each other, so Milano knocks Andrews out of the way, and Tre takes off downfield to block Lamar out of the way. And just like that, we are up 17-3 on the pick six after Taron Johnson returns the interception 101 yards. On the replay, TJ played this ball perfectly, sitting in the underneath zone, watching Lamar's eyes, knowing he could take off at any moment, and staying just out of his field of vision. As Lamar released the pass, TJ broke on the ball immediately and cleanly picked it off. While he had a lot of great pressures in the backfield and was solid in coverage, this may very well be the defining play of his career.
2 - Frazier - Besides the broken coverage play against Hurst last year, Frazier had a pretty good game plan against Lamar and the Ravens last season; enough to give you hope against them going into this game. Even early in the week, the Bills defenders talked about how they had a good game plan and were ready for the Ravens. But, this was a defense that turned over major components of their defensive line and a Ravens offense that finally got over the playoffs first round hump. The result? An absolute masterful performance in one of the most dominating defensive showings we've seen in a very long time. The Bills defense completely shut down the Ravens high powered college-style (sorry, couldn't help myself) RPO offense in a way that I don't think anyone saw coming. Frazier bunched 4 at the line to cover the gaps and had them rush from the inside out, taking away a scrambling lanes and creating pressure at the same time. When he did send an extra rusher, it was a DB from the blindside who usually got home clean. Outside of the two drives, the first and almost TD drive, the Ravens were only able to make gains on broken plays. All week you kept hearing about how physical the Ravens played and how their defense was going to be the star of the show. Frazier; he took that personally.
3 - Wind - The 3rd most important factor in this game had to be the wind. Watching on TV, you could see some of the flags in the stadium not moving at all, while others were completely blowing sideways. For those who weren't around in the earlier days when they talked about the swirling winds in January, this is what we were talking about. The wind wreaked havoc on both kickers, leading to a 2 for 6 performance. Both QB's missed wide open deep shots that are believed to have been lost in the jet stream. There were even a few shotgun snaps that you could see the wind affect it's path. The strong legged Bojo punted one into a wall of wind. It affected both teams, so that advantage was neutralized, but it did make me think about one thing. If this is going to be the Bills offense for the next 15 years, do I dare say we want a stadium that isn't going to slow us down? We aren't a Thurman led team that can rely on our rushing attack in these conditions. If it truly were the wind, wouldn't you rather have a dome and have Allen hit Diggs early on that touchdown bomb?
4 - Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to do.
Nothin' ain't worth nothin' but it's free.
Feelin' good was easy Lord, when Bobby sang the blues.
Feelin' good was good enough for me, good enough for me and Bobby McGee.
5 - Milano - Pay that man his money. I have a lot of respect for Mark Andrews and thinks he will command a solid contract this off-season. He's got the speed, hands, and physicality of an elite tight end and has been a focal point of this Ravens offense. While all of that is true, Matt Milano beat the absolute ***** out of him. Milano was a man possessed on the field in both run protection and pass coverage. He didn't just cover Andrews, he leveled him the moment the ball touched his hands. He played fast, he played hard, and he was consistent all game. I've always been a Milano fan and really don't want to lose him in this cap-reduced off-season, and this game was a perfect resume for his extension.
6 - Hughes - Against the Chargers, I kept wondering what it would be like to have a Bosa on our team. A guy that would absolutely dominate an opposing teams offensive line when only sending four. Against the Ravens, Hughes answered that question. I don't know if he was drinking a Code Red Mountain Dew while applying his Old Spice before the game, but Hughes was an absolute man on the field. He was credited with 2 sacks, but was in on another and was chasing Lamar all over the field. You want your stars to show up in the biggest games and that's exactly what Jerry did, he showed up and he shined bright.
7 - Tip of the Cap - There's two players I've been incredibly hard on this season and mainly because of the expectations I have of them due to their draft status. Edmunds and Oliver are guys far enough in their careers where they should be making a consistent impact on the field being top 15 picks. In this game, both of them made significant contributions and had a strong impact on the game. Oliver was fast this game and made some great pursuit tackles. Edmunds was fast with his decision making and wrapped up all of his tackles. He played his role in the defense exactly how he should have. Both were fundamentally sound and allowed others to play more aggressive because of it
8 - Smoke - After the game against the Colts, I was curious was Brown's role in this offense was going to be. With Humphries and Peters covering Diggs and Davis (right?!) most of the game, Smoke stepped up in a big way by becoming the safety net Allen needed and used in the first half of the season. I'm not sure if Beasley was hobbled out there, but Smoke was our clear number two in this game and contributed on numerous first downs. Brown also gave us our traditional "Allen scramble and finding a toe tapping receiver downfield" play. If nothing else, any team planning for the Bills have four legitimize receivers they need to plan for. Good luck with that.
9 - Allen - How would Allen handle the cold, windy conditions against a often-blitzing Ravens defense? First off, the ice in Allen's veins makes the cold air seem like a warm ocean breeze. The Blitzing Ravens dropped 4 into coverage on most plays trying to keep Allen underneath only to find Allen taking shot after shot downfield. When they did blitz, they got to him a few times, but it didn't shake him at all. Unlike the opposing QB on the other sideline who didn't know what to do when his gimmick was shut down, Allen kept his focus on the game, took what was given to him, and walked off the field a winner. Allen didn't have a flashy game, but he also didn't make any mistakes. He made adjustments and worked through his progressions. Just an overall solid game, but I'm not quite sure how I feel about the flops. I hate them in the NBA and MLS.
10 - McD - Coach has been the butt of many jokes for his sideline clapping, cliche' post-game speeches, and overall vanilla personality to the media. However, if you haven't been paying attention the past few weeks, we are seeing a very different side of McD lately. If one thing's been made clear to me, it's that McD had a very specific goal in mind with this team and he wasn't going to celebrate the little victories along the way. When they won the division, he got emotional in the locker room. When they won last week, he got loud in his post-game speech. In this game, you could see him bursting on the sidelines. McD was going to be happy until he had a Super Bowl contending squad, and as that vision has started to become a reality, I think we are finally seeing the real McD. With a 17-3 win, it's a beautiful thing.
**Notable Call-outs:
--Harrison Phillips was great against the run and in penetration
--Trent Murphy is the Lamar's scrambling kryptonite. His containment in this game was masterful and worth all the cap space sitting on the bench in recent games
--Knox wasn't flashy in his catches, but also didn't make any mistakes. He was great in pass protection
--Wallace with some great pressure on DB blitzes
--6700 fans really did sound like 75,000 strong
With that, we are off to the AFC championship game. It feels surreal to even type that. We heard people call us Super Bowl contenders, but now that we are in the final four, it's starting to become real. No matter what happens going forward, this team has proven everyone wrong this year. Well, except one man. In the 90's we had Chris Berman. This Bills team has Kyle Brandt. The hype and support this man has put towards the Bills has been absolutely amazing and he's created a fan out of me.
This one’s for you @Gugny Go Bills!!!
Agree completely on your point about the wind ..while it does neutralize the opponent..it neutralizes us just as much or more ..we have an explosive passing attack and are probably going to be a volume passing team for the next decade probably ....when they are building they should probably take that into deep consideration.
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Week 1 - Cardinals at Bills 1st Half Thread
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If this is how our defence is gonna play we have no shot. There's been wide open cardinals on every play.