Da webster guy

even when we had Winfield and Clements, I'd still put our d-backs in the category of the best we've ever had Poyer Hyde TreD and Vontae All top notch players. Nice job Beaner.

Groy did well at center, he was retained for that reason. On the other hand, we simply have too many holes in our front 7 that need addressing I just can't imagine not hammering two young first round defensive starters if we stayed put.

The second I see a mock with Bills taking a center I ignore the rest of the guy's picks. We have a solid guy in Groy and a hundred other holes to fill. Mayock was head and shoulders better than anyone in terms of his mock accuracy last year.

Hey as long as the stupid GM's stop calling these poor kids right when they're being drafted and keeping them on the telephone so they miss the best moment of their lives I'll be happy. It's such a Roger Goodell type of thing to do, shows you're out of touch with reality and that the GM or Coach who calls the kid cares more about themselves than anyone else. I'd turn my phone off and hang out in a local bar with my friends and family. You'll have plenty of time to speak with your new coach afterwards.

If he caught that Peterman pass that hit him right square on this stone hands, that whole game might have gone differently. Still mad about that, I'm holding a grudge.

Interesting. Man a free agent qb just makes your team better in a lot of ways when you otherwise have to give up 2 first rounders. There is no way a trade up will involve us giving up our first four picks. Not even close to any trade chart I have seen, unless we wanted first overall which we don't. Also, people that know the team know how well Groy played at center (except for his first game) And how much need we have at DT and LB. No way do we take a center, I don't care how good he is. Too many holes much bigger. Beane is going to leverage his relationship with Gettleman and do a two step trade up to nail our qb. But we'll still have our 2nd round picks when the dust settles, and a shiny new qb.

Mayock is your boy. Forget Kiper he's a trainwreck. 2016 Mock Drafter Points Mike Mayock 126 Walter Football 81 Draftsite.com 76 Rob Rang 64 Chris Burke 62 Mel Kiper/Todd McShay 60 Sporting News 55 Dan Brugler 52 The clear champion from 2016 was Mike Mayock, who pulled a Usain Bolt on the rest of the mock drafters and totally ran away from the field. He racked up more than 50% more points than his next closest competitor, which, to my surprise, was Walter Football. Mayock was correct on eight of the first 12 picks, which was almost twice as many as Kiper and McShay had in their entire first round mock. Here's a link to Mayocks latest. The best anyone can do right now is rank positional players, we still have free agency and draft day moves based on need obviously disrupt everything. This is interesting though: https://www.sbnation.com/2018/2/15/17016560/mike-mayock-positional-rankings-2018-nfl-draft-sam-darnold-josh-allen-josh-rosen .

I agree totally. There are hundreds of OC's out there, and maybe a few future solid NFL qb's coming out of college. Consider us lucky to have made the playoffs and yet still have enough draft capital to move up enough to grab a top qb prospect without giving away any picks next year.

I think if Deshaun didn't light it up last year, guys like Rudolph aren't getting picked until 3rd round. Same might be said for what Zeke and Fournette did for their teams, and how a RB might actually go #1 now. Funny how recent rookie performances can help guys rise and fall on the boards...

Beane said the charts mean a great deal to him. There are different ones but they use them as a starting point. He said especially on draft day there can be a dozen teams making offers to you for spot and that's a way you can set standards for offers to save time while you're on the clock. But you're partially right in the sense that trading up to get Andrew Luck at #1 would have cost a lot more than trading up to get Myles Garrett at #1 last year. Kiper says for the top few picks there is no standard because it varies w how special the top handful of guys are. I just hope we swing for the home run and go get the guy we want at qb. Whoever the scouts believe it is....

Yeah, sadly this is true. I just don't think accuracy improves much after you've thrown 20,000 balls in your college career. Maybe anticipation and footwork helps a little, but accuracy is either in your dna or it isn't. Deshaun's success is making everybody rethink these athletic Tyrod types, but I just see another Teddy Bridge or Geno Smith in Jackson. .

Cousins numbers and situation are very similar to Brees' last few years in San Diego. 3500 yard range, 25 td, a dozen picks. QbR in the 90's range. Good competitor with big upside in the right system.

Not sure which draft value chart you're using but the Jimmy Johnson one says we wouldnt need to give up nearly as much as you proposed to get into 3rd spot. His chart is just a guideline though, it could be off considerably.

Thank you. Spending big is only a bad idea if you miss on other game changing players you'd have signed otherwise. Plus subtract Tyrods cap hit from Cousins and its a no brainer. Plus he gives you back at least 1 first round pick that you'd be burning on a rookie qb to use elsewhere to help the team. So by signing him you get TWO players, one of which is a proven qb

The worst part for the niners is yet to come when they realize they just sold the farm for Garrapollo and he's the next Matt Cassel. Its one thing to miss on a draft pick, but they just doomed their franchise with that contract. Aside from the Jax game, he really was mediocre at best. And we all know the Jags D was overrated, gave up 42 to the Steelers and couldnt hold a three score lead against Pats without Gronk. Jimmy barely beat the lowly bears, eeking out 15 points and throwing a few picks that game too if I remember. Foster is the least of their worries, I'm tellin ya.....

Yeah i agree. He's one of those dudes that is always plagued with something. Like Sammy, and uh....Kelvin Benjamin (sigh)

We can also flip a coin and get tails 10 times in a row, but it's not likely. Beane and McD know they are gone in a few years if they don't keep this team improving. Can't be done without the QB. They won't stay put because the odds are too much higher with the first few qb's than the 5th or 6th guy. If it was your career, wouldn't you want the best odds?

I wonder if Gronk is going to file a harassment claim for the eagles fans who broke into his house and stole his full library of books: Reading for Dummies Flagrant Intentional Cheapshots for Dummies How to act like a neanderthal for Dummies How to be stoopid for Dummies

Rob Johnson 2.0 The dude beat the Rams backups (still threw a few picks anyway), barely beat the lowly Bears, and looked mediocre against the sucky Texans. The Jags game is where the kid looked good, but as we saw in Pittsburgh when they gave up 42 points, the Jags defense played pretty poorly late in the season . I am amazed at this deal, but it's another team ahead of us in the draft that doesn't need a qb so I'm cool with it.

Probably the worst part of the Dareus pick is the incredible talent in that draft. Cam, Von, A. J Green, Patrick Peterson, Julio, JJ Watt, Richard Sherman, Tyron Smith, Aldon Quinn, Justin Houston, Mo Wilkerson, Mike Pouncey etc. I think every one of those guys is still with their original team and elite. And we got stuck with the one kid who just never grew up. Sucks.

whaley's work paid off last draft, if there was a redraft, TreD, Dawkins and Milano would all go higher. Zay lower but technically last years draft isn't over until we select KC's first rounder. Thats very likely gonna be the 4th impact player, 5 if Zay pans out. Gotta give Whaley some props for that.

Dareus cap penalty is zero, he was traded along with his contract no?

Everything depends on the offer they get. Would you take a 1st rounder for him? Philly may have won the superbowl but they sucked on defense. Pats receivers were running wide open all day and they got shredded for 600+ yards. They traded us a pick for Darby so they're down a pick already, Peters may never make it back to his original form, and they obviously need Dback help. Before you say they won't trade him you need to know what they're being offered. Only an idiot GM would say "hey sorry but we just aren't taking offers at this time..." Personally I think Jax would offer their first rounder for the guy. He could complete that team nicely.

Say what you want, Chandler is a game changing all pro in his prime, and the Patriots have ZERO pass rush. Foles was barely touched all night, as Belichick pointed out in his post game. Just because Pats have won superbowls since he left is meaningless, were wrong to deal him. I watched every Zona game he dominated about half of them. He would have been a force against the backup tackle for philly.

Davis had some great plays too. He's gonna win a roster spot again and rotate in behind Jerry. Looked like our best pass rusher for a few games there.