Rocbillsfan1

Why does basically lucking your way in to the playoffs after needing a few miracles along the way matter so much to Bills fans. It was nice to break the streak but look at my above post. We had zero cornerstones moving forward after the season ended except for White, maybe Dawkins and Milano. If everyone thought we were tanking last year why is it so unreasonable to think that we are actually doing it right this year and this is part of the process and pitch he already gave to the owners. So far he has opened up our cap space moving forward, drafted a top 10 QB, young taleneted MLB, good defensive lineman. Benjamin is not part of the core moving forward, neither is Murphy or Star. They may be servicable for the next year or two tops but that's all he was looking for. Beane is not getting fired next year.

Way to grasp at straws. You think he's going to be worse then Peterman? have you looked at Peterman's stats in all three of his starts? No it won't happen. Get a clue. It's never happened before for a reason in the NFL. Yes you play him for the next couple of years. That's the whole point of picking a raw QB that is going to need a few years to learn the game, and I'm completely sober.

I remember the play and the ball did in fact hit the defender first but he still had a chance to try and catch it before it hit him or after the ball bounced and he did neither. I'm a lot more upset the way Benjamin played. That's the real issue today.

Dude you don't get it. Beane is not getting fired and he's not picking a QB next year. If he does that he's admitting that he !@#$ed up the process and rebuild. If he admits he's wrong and picks a QB he deserves to be fired. You don't pick a QB top 10 and give up a starting Left Tackle and multiple day 2 picks to pick another QB who guess what will still be behind a ****ty oline and zero Wrs. That's total bull ****. He's stuck with Allen and needs to build around him at this point. Get it?

News flash the Bills picked a raw QB with elite talent that is going to need to time to develop. You cannot tell in one year if he is a bust. There was no indictation that they even wanted him to play this year, at least not for a while. This year is all about tanking. No one is getting fired. They know they are going to suck. At least I hope they do.

I'm not aruging against Allen playing. There is no way 100% that they draft a QB top 5. Are you high? Think about what that would say about their ability to evaluate college talent if they did that. They gave up a starting left tackle and multiple picks to draft a QB in the top 10. You don't pick another QB the next year in the top 5 especially when you have no online and no good WRs period. How can you even really begin to evaluate this kid. I hated the Allen pick but they are tied to this kid for a few years for better or worse.

there's no way they take a QB #1 next year. That would be admitting that they totally failed and gave up a lot of draft capital and resources to pick a bust without even giving him a couple of years. They need the #1 pick but that's so they can trade down and stock pile picks because they have holes everywhere on this team.

well it looks like OP and Steve Tasker were drinking the same Kool-aid before the game.

I posted this in the fire Brandon Beane thread and feel like this applies here. I think he saw reality last year after the Jags game and realized there were too many holes on this team with no enough young talent moving forward. This is the tank year that everyone thought would happen last year. I said it after the playoff game last year, this team had nothing to look forward to this year. They had no franchise QB, too much dead money for this year, and barely and young players to look forward to that could grow with the team. The only good young talent we had was White, and potentially Dawkins and Milano and the jury is still out and how much of a core piece the last two are. The primary challenge was to find your future QB. They drafted one at the expense of using a lot of draft capital and Glenn to get him and then traded up again for Edmunds. Remember when we all use to laugh at how bad the Bills drafts use to be during the drought well here's a look at who is still on this team from the past 6 drafts which should make up most of your young core going forward. Now some of this is because Of Whaley and Beane letting people go or trading them so some of this is self-induced which is why I think people are upset. 2018 Allen project, Edmunds also raw and young, potentially Phillips? 2017 White, Dawkins, Milano 2016 Lawson bust 2015 John Miller lol 2014 - 2013 - Some young talent we've let go are Chris Hogan, Bobby Woods, Sammy Watkins, Goodwin, E.J. Gaines, Darby, Gilmore, Glenn, Henderson, Alonso, Preston Brown, Marcel Dareus. Even though I agreed trying to move on from Fitz and Tyrod they are still proven vets that are better than anything we currently have. We now have older vets like McCoy, Clay who is invisible, Benjamin who can't catch the ball. Wood and Incognito retire and what are you left with? Nothing! This team blows and unfortunately the only play at this point is to be horrible and get the #1 pick. I hope Beane saw this too and maybe he was trying to tank this year. Hopefully we don't ruin Allen in the "process". Then you need to trade that #1 for hopefully as much capital as you can get and mix that with free agency money next year which to be honest they probably shouldn't go crazy and overspend. Just a few solid veteran players would be nice and keep stock piling future picks if possible. They really need to take a look at trading McCoy if possible for his sake and the sake of building this team for the future because right now it's a !@#$ing dumpster fire.

maybe they can get a fourth if a team is desperate but yea I'm on board for his sake and ours. They need to build for the future at this point.

So when Tyrod is moved next year and Mayfield takes over and Tyrod goes to his fourth team as a backup will that make him a journey QB? Stop being an idiot. Tyrod is a bum. Fitz is slighly better. He's also been a starter on Houston, NY, Buffalo, and most likely will take over for Winston who to this point hasn't been very good.

they need to trade him for a draft pick if possible. Not sure what they could get. Hopefully a playoff team loses a RB. Maybe Pitt if Bell doesn't show. Goes back to Pennslyvania.

And now Tyrod is on his 3rd team and will be gone by the end the year. Try actually making an argument about how Tyrod is better. Nobody said Fitz is a franchise QB he's just better than Tyrod.

Get back to me when he ever throws for more than 300 yards in a game but don't hold your breath. He has two all pro wide receivers right now and what's he do today? Under 50% completion rate under 200 yards and a timely Interception at the end of the game. You are delusional if you think Tyrod is a better QB than Fitz. I guess Fitz did you wrong at some point though, maybe you lost some money on a bet or he had sex with your GF.

Whose better Tyrod? give me a break the guy can't throw the ball to save his life. Flutie? Maybe Bledsoe but he really only had one year where he lit it up. If Fitz had all the weapons Tyrod had and had a solid defense things would have played out differently for him. Again I'm not saying he is a solid franchise type of QB. It's just all the Bills Qbs have been that bad.

I said it after the playoff game last year, this team had nothing to look forward to this year. They had no franchise QB, too much dead money for this year, and barely and young players to look forward to that could grow with the team. The only good young talent we had was White, and potentially Dawkins and Milano and the jury is still out and how much of a core piece the last two are. The primary challenge was to find your future QB. They drafted one at the expense of using a lot of draft capital and Glenn to get him and then traded up again for Edmunds. Remember when we all use to laugh at how bad the Bills drafts use to be during the drought well here's a look at who is still on this team from the past 6 drafts which should make up most of your young core going forward. Now some of this is because Of Whaley and Beane letting people go or trading them so some of this is self-induced which is why I think people are upset. 2018 Allen project, Edmunds also raw and young, potentially Phillips? 2017 White, Dawkins, Milano 2016 Lawson bust 2015 John Miller lol 2014 - 2013 - Some young talent we've let go are Chris Hogan, Bobby Woods, Sammy Watkins, Goodwin, E.J. Gaines, Darby, Gilmore, Glenn, Henderson, Alonso, Preston Brown, Marcel Dareus. Even though I agreed trying to move on from Fitz and Tyrod they are still proven vets that are better than anything we currently have. We now have older vets like McCoy, Clay who is invisible, Benjamin who can't catch the ball. Wood and Incognito retire and what are you left with? Nothing! This team blows and unfortunately the only play at this point is to be horrible and get the #1 pick. I hope Beane saw this too and maybe he was trying to tank this year. Hopefully we don't ruin Allen in the "process". Then you need to trade that #1 for hopefully as much capital as you can get and mix that with free agency money next year which to be honest they probably shouldn't go crazy and overspend. Just a few solid veteran players would be nice and keep stock piling future picks if possible. They really need to take a look at trading McCoy if possible for his sake and the sake of building this team for the future because right now it's a !@#$ing dumpster fire.

And he's still better than any QB we've had since Kelly and he beat the Patriots. I know not saying much though.

Might be over emotional but he’s not wrong. If the goal was to tank then the season will be very successful but no one is paying to watch this **** in buffalo and don’t give me the crap about making the playoffs last year.

There are experts who are also predicting them to win the division as well. Top 3 defense mixed with a top 15 offense usually means you are a playoff contender. I know what a shocker.

And they’d be wrong. They have the best d in the league and a much improved offense. With no bell in Pitt I see them winning the division.

Of course they are what are you even talking about. That said I hope everyone gets a good look at what a dumpster fire this team really is. I can even believe people were thinking of trading a first next year for Mack. We will be a top 3 pick for sure.

Whose got the free agent list by position for next year

He also didn’t challenge the td from the week before. I believe we ended up scoring anyways but McDermott so far to me has left a lot to be desired in terms of game mgmt. that’s on the head coach and he should be practicing for real games just like all the players are. not giving Allen more reps so he can evaluate a punter would be almost a fireable offense. I think he didn’t challenge it simply because he wasn’t ready or didn’t think the ref was wrong.

Because in back to back weeks our starting qb has had to leave the game due to getting hurt behind a horrible online. I’m pretty sure all 3 will play this year.

I’m not stating he is going to be the answer long term but the hate on this guy who is young and showed some promise is a bit much. People act like he’s worse than jeff Tuel or other ****ty qbs we’ve had the past 20 years.