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34 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:
Compared to 4.5 and 6.5 the last two years.
That’s respect.
Then I saw Baltimore with 11.
The Ravens won 11 games this season, and 14 the year before that. Lamar Jackson is 30-7 as a starter. 11 wins is an appropriate line for them in a 17 game season.
10.5 for the Bills is on the low side. I'm taking the over all day. I can't see this team finishing worse than 11-6 unless there are serious injuries.
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Stafford, Wentz, Hurts, and Newton are way too high. Rest of the list looks pretty reasonable
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6 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
What the NFL considers “forcible contract” has obviously changed. The enforcement of the Ford penalty was in line with how the penalty was enforced during the rest of that season. They are now making the threshold for what qualifies more reasonable.
I don't see how any reasonable person could watch a replay of what Ford did and say that it was "forcible contact". What Ford did is just about the polar opposite of "forcible" on a football field.
Do you have any examples of blind side block penalties that were called that had this level of contact?
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6 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
As I said at the time, it was a bad rule properly enforced. Now it’s a better rule.That's wrong on every level.
The rule was NOT properly enforced at the time, and it is NOT changing now. The "forcible contact" language was always included in the rule, and the ref/NFL ignored that part of the rule when they made the call on the field and decided to fine Ford after the fact. This video is the NFL clarifying that what Ford did should not be considered to be "forcible" and therefore is not a penalty.
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The Bills and Ford need to make a huge stink about the fine. The ref making a bad call in real time is really unfortunate, but that's just part of sports. Someone at the NFL head office reviewed the play and determined not only that the correct call was made, but that it was an egregious foul that warranted a fine. Whoever made that decision was clearly retaliating against the Bills and Ford for complaining about the call after the game. That person needs to face consequences over the decision to fine Ford.
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Jason Peters - loved him until he held out after playing 1 year of a 5 year contract. He sat out all of training camp/pre season and came back SLOW in the 2008 season. He was awful that year and I'm still mad he made the pro-bowl. Who remembers this play?
Peters was good for at least 1-2 plays like that per game in 2008. Drives me crazy that he's one of the most respected LTs in the game and a sure fire HOFer after mailing it in for an entire season over a contract dispute.
Kelvin Benjamin - don't need a write up to explain my dislike
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I do think teams need to be careful about paying young QBs based solely on their teams performance while on rookie contracts. Look no further than Wentz and Goff. Both guys were wildly successful while their team had ~30mm in extra cap space to spend on the rest of the roster. Once they got their mega contracts Wentz was a disaster and Goff noticeably declined.
Both teams traded those guys away after 1 year of their mega deals.
I'd say the big difference is that Wentz and Goff are average-ish QBs that were propped up by elite rosters, whereas Allen was playing at an elite level with an average-ish roster. We'll see how it goes, but I'd say there's about a 0% chance we trade and/or don't extend Allen.
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What a weird charge for a multi-millionaire. Have to imagine he can afford an attorney that'll get this tossed out.
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This is one where I think the headline is worse than the actual video. Claypool took a kick at the guy, but it doesn't look like he really connected. The guy immediately got to his feet so it doesn't look like he was hurt.
I think Claypool gets a talking to/warning from the Steelers/NFL. Not suspension worthy for a first time offender.
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I'm more pessimistic than most on this board, but I think we're the overwhelming favorites to win the AFCE again this season.
Miami would be worrisome if Tua takes a giant leap and progresses to being elite, but I've seen nothing from him yet to indicate that will happen.
NE will be better, but Cam is a bottom tier QB at this point. I'd be more scared by NE if they had signed Fitz
Jets will be better (how could they not?), but will still very likely be a bottom feeder.
If I was going to assign odds of who wins the AFCE I'd say
80% Bills
10% Dolphins
9% Patriots
1% Jets
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31 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
Summary of the 14 allegations
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31113664/summary-lawsuits-deshaun-watson?appsrc=sc
This one is the most serious allegation (forced oral), but I find it difficult to believe.
June 2020 and Aug. 17, 2020, at a hotel and later a spa in Houston. The plaintiff, who offers bodywork and stretch therapy classes, markets her business through Instagram. She said she initially did not know who Watson was when he contacted her through the manager at a spa where she worked. She met him at a hotel where he was staying, the lawsuit says. She says Watson groped her buttocks and *****, and she slapped him. She says he later touched her hand with his penis. On Aug. 17, she says, Watson reached out on Instagram, and she didn't realize the connection to her earlier client until he arrived. The lawsuit says Watson apologized for his earlier behavior but during the appointment exposed himself, forced the woman's mouth onto his penis and masturbated in front of her.
I suppose it's possible for her to not know who Watson was the first time in June. Not everyone is an NFL fan, although I'm sure Watson has lots of commercials/billboards/etc in the Houston area. The part I can't believe is she didn't recognize his name when he reached out for a second meeting in August.
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1 hour ago, thurst44 said:
Can we maybe re-think this with Star?! The Bills had the #3 defense both years he was there and dropped to middle-of-the-pack when he was out. Could be purely coincidental, but also something to think about. Moreover, and not to keep beating this drum, but part of why he was brought in was to clog up the middle making it harder for QBs to step into that middle and complete intermediate passes and passes to tight ends. During his two years, Bills gave up the fewest yards to tight ends... this year they gave up the most. I know, correlation, causation, but I would love to see Cover 1 do a study of Star's impact. I'm just going off of what I've seen in games, what people said he should be good at when he came, and how the defense as a whole played when he was at the 1T as opposed to when he was out.
Star was never going to get big numbers--that's not what he does. He's there to take up an extra blocker and make other players get more stats.
Murphy had his moments, so I wouldn't call him as big bust, but hard to say he totally "lived up to expectations". Addison showed flashes, but definitely below expectations. However, I'd argue that McDermott and Beane probably feel that Star L. lived pretty well up to their expectations. And I'd add the Butler and Jefferson signings if we're going there, but I also kind of feel that the moves might have worked if it was a season with full preparation to get to where they wanted to be playing as a unit.
Star signed a 5 year $50 million contract. For that sort of deal I expected more than just occasionally being double teamed and eating up space in the middle. There was so much turnover on our defense from 2019 to 2020 that I think it's impossible to pinpoint how much of an impact Star opting out had. I think he's overpaid, and Beane/Mcdermott seem to agree (given they restructured his contract after 2019 season). Star restructured his contract after year 2 of a 5 year deal to take a fairly hefty paycut. That's not something that a guy "living up to expectations" would be doing.
Murphy signed for 3 years 22 mil. While he made some plays over the 3 years he was mostly a non-factor, and a healthy scratch for much of the 2020 season. He really was the worst contract on the team last year.
Addison signed for 3 years 30 mil. Another guy that made some plays, but was mostly a non-factor. He's already restructured his contract.
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On one hand the contracts you pointed out might be lower because they took a discount to play for a contender. On the other hand, with the COVID cap crunch maybe those are the best deals those players could've gotten in this specific off-season.
I like the contracts we've given out, but I wonder how much of it was in Beane's control.
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23 minutes ago, Mango said:
To play devils advocate here, don’t we have one of the highest paid DL’s in the league?We had the highest paid D line in the league last season.
Murphy, Star, and Addison were all pretty big contracts that haven't lived up to expectations.
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55/650/5 in 12 games
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While I'm perfectly fine with releasing Brown, I can't say I'm thrilled that we did it in order to bring in a 34 year old Sanders. Sanders has a 6mm cap hit + 1.6mm dead cap from Brown for 7.6mm total. Hard to believe that Brown would have refused a restructure to get him at less than 7.6mm cap hit.
Browns 2020 season was an injury filled dud, but he was really good in 2019. Sanders hasn't had a comparable season close to that since 2016.
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51 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:
I am still suspicious of the lawyer, simply giving a bunch of women similar stories is not enough for me, though a lot of stuff apparently went through twitter and Instagram and the big facts for me:
1) did he hire all of his massages once per person? If I need a massage and have a good person I go back repeatedly
2) did he only get them at home or were these supplemental to his ones at the facilities?
3) how did he find these women? If all these women were found on instagram and they can show he only found them there he will have a hard time explaining this.
I in general do not trust lawyers like this guy but if he has done this 9+ times the pattern should be able to be shown with a digital trail- it does not need to be every girl but at least a few.
Having NINE women come forward, all through the same lawyer, and none of them going to the police makes me MORE skeptical of this story than if it was only 1 woman (or just a few).
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2 hours ago, mjt328 said:
I mentioned the Saints in another thread.
They won the Super Bowl back in 2009, right when the team started to hit its stride. For the most part, they were able to keep the core of that team together for about 4 years. Then the big contracts started catching up, and the salary cap started becoming a bigger issue. It started with them letting defensive talent go. But then started trickling over to the O-Line and receivers.
In 2014, 2015 and 2016, the Saints were NOT a very good team. They went 7-9 every season in that stretch, and Drew Brees was pretty much carrying the roster by himself. Bills fans only remember them being able to steal Jairus Byrd from us, despite being tight on the cap. They don't remember the other players the Saints had to let go of, or that Byrd was released at the mid-point of his deal.
Don't let yourself be fooled. The stupid contracts that New Orleans handed out in 2010-2014 (like Byrd) were the ones that killed their roster.
The Saints eventually dug themselves out of cap hell by doing things like trading Jimmy Graham and Brandin Cooks for draft picks, instead of paying them the big bucks. They also did a fantastic job of drafting. The 2016 class was good. And the 2017 class was one of the best draft classes I've seen in the last decade. Those picks were the foundation for them rebuilding the roster, and putting together 4 more strong seasons before Drew Brees ended up retiring. Now the cap has caught up again, and they are being forced to start over.
Was it worth it? Who knows.
If the Saints had been wiser with their cap dollars, maybe they wouldn't have had that 3-year drop-off from 2014-2016.
The Saints are an interesting case study. You can point to the '14-'16 seasons and say they were bad because they mishandled the cap. You can also make the opposite point and look to the '17-'20 seasons to say that being in cap hell doesn't matter. They've had a minimum of 20mm dead cap in every season since 2017, BUT they've had the best regular season record over that time. Kicking the can down the road did not hurt them the last 4 years.
Trading away Graham and Cooks didn't help with their cap situation. Trading players away results in dead cap (they incurred 9mm dead cap when they traded Graham). Those were still good trades and good decisions, but it did not help with cap hell.
Has the cap really caught up to the Saints in 2021? Or, with Brees retiring, are they essentially punting on this season to position themselves for success in 2022?
There's an accounting concept about this called taking a "big bath". Companies take as many losses as they can in 1 year so their future earnings look better. NFL teams use the same concept (like the Bills did in 2018).
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The cap isn't completely meaningless, but I do think Bills fans assign way too much importance to it. You can look around the NFL and see many teams doing creative things to get around the cap.
The Saints have been in cap hell for multiple years now. During that time they've been one of the best teams in the league, and a perennial super bowl contender (no SB appearances, but they've had brutal playoff losses). Have they really had to pay for manipulating the cap? If they have I'm not seeing it.
Teams will sometimes go into a year realizing they won't be competitive and decide to bite the bullet on bad contracts (see: 2018 Buffalo Bills ). We didn't HAVE to eat 30mm in dead cap by trading away Dareus, Glenn, and Taylor, but we CHOSE to do that to give us more of an advantage in 2019.
Teams are only punished by the cap when they chose to be.
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I dislike Bojo more than the next guy (I made a thread in 2018 saying we should cut him), but I can't say I'm thrilled with this move. Bojo was pretty good last year. Why suffer through 2 years of bad/inconsistent punter play only to not re-sign the guy after he had a great 3rd season?
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16 minutes ago, dbfla10 said:
There is no reason to cut star. The cap hit is there whether he is on the team or not.
Star's dead cap exceeds his active cap so cutting him actually hurts our cap situation. We could ask Tre or Diggs to restructure, but I'm not sure how that would play out. Tre just signed his contract, and Diggs is already underpaid after his all pro season.
We'd have to get very very creative with the cap to free up enough space to make an impact with FA. Beane hasn't shown that he's willing to do that.
And that's OK. It's not the worst thing to "stay the course" with a team that went 13-3 with AFCCG appearance.
Don't expect much of anything to happen in free agency though. 1 mid tier FA and a handful of depth guys seems likeliest.
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4 minutes ago, Eastport bills said:
Big splashy signings, by talent deprived teams day one or two have fans worried there will be limited options for us,
but this is a different year. There's plenty of inventory and limited cap space. Beane will get an edge and a back guaranteed.
I'm more worried about Thuney to Chiefs and Dupree to Titans. That's 2 of the top teams in the AFC signing 2 of the best FAs.
Spotrac says the Bills have 10 mm in estimated cap space (although I don't see Feliciano on there). With available cap space we could barely afford a WR2 let alone the rest of what OP was hoping we'd sign. Beane's "splash" was keeping Milano, Williams, and Feliciano.
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I'd be very interested in Barkley. It all comes down to the cost of acquiring him though.
I'd be willing to trade a 3rd for him (toss in Singletary too while we're at it). 2nd or higher is a no from me.
I'm not sure why a lot of people in here are concerned with how much Barkley will cost after this season. If he has a fantastic year and is going to cost a lot, then great, there's a decent chance we would win the Superbowl. Let him walk and we should get a 3rd rd comp pick back (provided Beane doesn't continue to thumb his nose at the comp pick formula).
I'm more than willing to pay a 3rd for a rental year of Barkley. We're in a championship window with Allen on his rookie deal, and this is a low risk trade that could put us over the top.
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11 hours ago, dneveu said:
Well its usually players coming off rookie contracts who are getting paid in free agency. Since they have been here they've only had 4 drafts... and they extended the 3 players from 2017.
If anything its a product of poor drafting prior to their arrival. 1 player from 2016 draft was signed away (Ragland was traded for a 4th - more than the comp pick). 1 player was eligible in 2015 (maybe? i don't remember how much miller got paid, and they had already traded darby by this point). 2 players from 2014 in watkins and brown - watkins was traded.
If they sat on darby and watkins maybe they get comp picks. They traded them both for considerably more value than comp picks. Between all these trades, there was considerable roster turnover. They've always drafted between 6-8 players every season.
They made these moves in the same time to acquire picks:
Teller + 7th for 5th and 6th in 2020
Bodine for a 6th in 2020
Zay Jones for a 5th in 2021
Glenn + 1st and 5th to move up in the 1st
Tyrod for pick 65
Mccarron for 2019 5th
Newhouse for 2021 draft pick
At least 3 of those guys were almost guaranteed cut players.
How about defensive player of the year Stephon Gilmore? Robert Woods? Shaq Lawson? Jordan Phillips?
Beane has pissed away a handful of 3rd round comp picks by handing out UFA contracts to replacement level players. Trading some of those signees away for late round draft picks is still a net loss.
I think Beane has done pretty well as GM (who can argue with a 13-3 season and 2 playoff wins?), but he's been absolutely atrocious when it comes to handling comp picks.
Allen had 21 dropped interceptions last year
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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About 5 of those were legit bad throws that really should've been intercepted. Another 5 or so that were contested throws and our WR broke it up or the CB couldn't hold on to a lazer. The rest would've been circus catches or the DBs didn't even get a hand on the ball.
"dropped interceptions" is pretty subjective, but I'd say whoever put that list together is pretty biased against JA.