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Everyone has an opinion on this. This is mine. Draft a WR in the 1st round (2nd at the latest). I will be disappointed in Beane if he does not. I prefer to let the draft come to Beane and not waste a 4th to move up 2 spots unless he is pretty darn sure a team like the Chiefs is trading up to take his guy. With the draft full of WRs, Beane should have a lot more than 1 guy he'd be happy with, both in the 1st and 2nd rounds.

You must be giving "jokes" a lot of leeway.

Currently 2025 is -$9.8M and when Von is let go next spring it results in a $8.5M in cap savings. Diggs contract may get traded. The trading team gets him for $19.5M with no guaranteed money (no dead cap). Whether he's cut or traded he saves another $5.1M pre-June and $18.5M post June. I see a post-June cut. Josh will restructure $20M more and take his hit down to $40M. Beane will be in a much better position next spring and going forward.

I see a 2nd or 4th round rookie safety pushing Edwards and Rapp for a starting position. Hamlin having to fight off competition for S#4. Hope Beane double dips with a 5th-6th rounder to compete.

Didn't want to see Safety in the 1st. This makes it better for WR/DL. Can't see a first-round need in the other positions. Second round BPA is good for me for a lot of other positions. I hope it falls that way.

He signed a one-year $3M contract with the Chiefs last year. Seems he started after Bryan Cook got hurt. KC let him walk so I think it's around a $2M+ contract, but hopefully less. He does seem like a ball hawk. Hope McDermott can get him playing well for the D. I think this makes a Safety in Day 1 or 2 less important.

Haack was brought in to get some camp competition. I would like to see someone brought in to compete with Bass. Get both of these kickers' minds' focused. I don't like either of these guys kicking every kick all summer long with not even the hint of competition.

Sorry but you need to put this fantasy to bed. It would START with Bills 1st and 2nd this year PLUS next year's 1st and 2nd. Moving from 28 to 4 is a huge jump. https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=buf

A lot of sarcasm for a former 7th rounder who has to battle for a depth spot in camp. I see a vet minimum with maybe a small signing bonus at best.

Thank you, I did not know that.

I'm not saying to move Taron to Safety BUT i would like to see if some packages with 3 LBs and Taron stays on the field.

I see it like this so far. I will say the longer Beane goes without signing more UFAs (especially those around $2M one-year contracts) the more draft picks he might keep. I totally can agree with your points and have supported that in the past. Just see this year as maybe an exception. 1- WR (Assuming Shorter or one of the other PS guys make the team) 1- RB 2- OL (IOL and Swing)- I can't count Tommy Doyle as a lock) 4- DL (I have only 5 locks Beane usually keeps 9-10) 4- DB (I only have 6 locks Beane usually keeps 10) I don't count Hamlin as a lock. 1- P (Martin and Haack could be upgraded and cheaper). So that's 13 slots. I see a WR along with a DL/S with the 1st 2 picks. I do believe Beane is looking to add a vet Safety with the money he has left. That leaves 10 slots. Even if Beane drafted 10 guys and 8 (at best) made the team that still leaves some depth spots needing to be filled. Beane could use the cap from Tre White to fill out the roster with some vets like he did with Floyd last year.

I agree that 10 or 11 rookies have a low probability of ALL making the team. But if you are taking a chance with drafting 7 guys from the 5th - 7th rounds you have to expect some not to make the 53. It's an odds thing. There is a chance on the unlikely situation that ALL the rookies look good of stashing a couple on the PS, especially the 6th and 7th rounders. If they get lucky and hit on 4-5 guys worth keeping my question would be, is it better to do that (this year) than using those picks to move a few spots up knowing that even those guys picked in Day 3 may not pan out too. Beane has never done this before, and I won't be upset if he does bundle picks, but he has not been in this cap crunch as bad as this year and next.

That is what made me start the thread. At first, I thought Beane could bundle some of those to get back into the 3rd. When I looked at the new trade value chart it just didn't make a lot of sense. Those 5ths, 6ths and 7th don't get you much when his first Day 3 pick is a low 4th. I started to think, just pick guys and hope you hit on a few.

I'm more intrigued about the possibility of Taron moving in and out of a safety spot. He seems so versatile that he could start to split time between the 2 depending on down and distance and opponents' offensive tendencies. The 4-3-4 vs 4-2-5 argument has always been about taking Taron out. This could be a compromise to that point.

I had no problem with Beane moving around in the past. I'm just compromising and thinking he should try to let the draft come to him a little bit more this year. Get a couple more of the late rounders and hope they hit. As to the rookie deals, IF they are good enough for depth, the 4-year contracts save a lot of cash compared to the $1.7M vet depth on one-year contracts.

Like I said, first I heard anyone mentioning this. I also agree about the "best players need to be on the field" thing.

I came into this idea with the assumption that if a lot of Day 3 picks are made that a few will not pan out. It's the "odds" thing. With some luck the guys that don't make it can battle with the UDFA and cheap vets for the PS. I could make the point again that guys like Doyle and Hamlin can be upgraded with a rookie, so that opens up more 53 spots. A punter in the mix would definitely be in the works.

If this has been discussed, I missed it. It's an interesting idea. I could see situations/certain opponents when using this scheme could work. Taron can do so much already that it seems plausible.

Good post. Generally, in the past, Beane has gone into the draft with a lot of lower-level vet guys to fill depth holes. Many for double rookie wage scales and most on 1-year contracts. Just wondering if this year he might steer a bit of a different path. My hope is he doesn't feel the need to use these late round picks to get his 1st and 2nd rounder. Then I guess he has more options on Day 3.

Exactly what I was thinking. Many have been saying that. The thing is using the new Trade Value Chart you have to bundle A LOT of those Day 3 picks to get from 128 (Bills top 4th round pick) into the mid 90's. I figure it takes that 4th and 2 5th to make that move. You also have to find a partner to do it. So, once again, my new counterargument is on the odds that the picks given up COULD be worth more drafting guys than using them on the chance of that one 3rd rounder hitting. I'm in no way saying to do what I said, just getting feedback. Thanks for yours!

I do too. I guess my counter to that point is, if they are good at evaluating the later round talent, wouldn't getting more of them increase the odds of guys that could outperform their drafting round. Maybe I'm confused as to how much Beane moves around in the later rounds. I know he uses these picks to move in Day 1 and 2, but has he been moving around a lot in Day 3, or just generally staying where the picks come up on their own?

There is a lot of speculation of Beane using a number of picks to move around the board this season. He has done that in the past, so the premise has legs. On the other hand, Beane has never been in this situation needing some help in a number of areas while needing to get younger AND controlling he cap going forward. Lots of depth penciled in that could be improved on. I look at the Hamlin's/Doyle's as examples. After the first 2 rounds (my personal hope is WR with 1 early pick and DL or S with the other), the remaining 9 are from the late 4th on. Beane and his boys have found some decent players in these rounds, BUT the odds stack against you. Could doubling up on Safety picks (if not in the 2nd) and OL/DL along with single picks of RB/CB/P have any advantage? I know it's a risk, but everything has risk. I just keep wondering if this approach has any merit.

It would be an overpay IF Jones can't play well for the bulk of the season. If he does, then it all comes down to his effectiveness in 2025. Seems to me this contract's risk is about 2025. Beane has to hit on 2 DL guys in this draft. If that happens, Jone's cap hit next year is easily workable. My fingers are crossed on DaQuan's health.

Beane has got a lot more done this season than I expected. Need a great draft. I was thinking he would be high on signing someone after June 1st, but if the roster is looking good at that point he may just roll over some of that money to offset the big dead cap for Von Miller (and Diggs?) coming due next spring.