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Let me drive over to the Broadmoor and check this out. I'll be right back. LOL.

Agree. Dane would be primary depth.

I think the original round tender is a good move by Beane. He can let Dane see what he is worth and then Beane can match if he likes it. If some team throws some money at Dane (which is a possibility) Bills will get a 7th round pick. A 2nd round tender is $4.9M which is too much for Dane IMO.

Technically he can sign a multi-year contract for any amount of money BUT only after the original team waves the "tender" option. In essence he will be an UFA and can sign with the team for any terms after March 15th, but the original team could lose him to anyone.

Dane Jackson is a RFA. If the Bills do not "tender" him a contract, he becomes an UFA. Original round tender is $2.7M. The price cannot be lower. If a team offers him more, the Bills can match OR let him go and get a 7th round pick (his original draft round). Now, Dane could sign for lower with the Bills and give up his tender option (like Cam Lewis did) but Jackson thinks he is worth more. It's his right to do this. Personally, I think a team will offer a contract higher and he signs it.

If the Buffalo Bills would have signed Geno Smith as a backup in 2021 for $1.2M the vast majority of this board would have mocked OBD. What is showed to me is that a "bad" starter who has been in the league for some time can play good football. Rookies can be a "diamond in the rough" but I would rather have a guy who has started a number of games earlier in his career and now is willing to take the backup role for very reasonable money. Having that guy in your system and playing year after year in preseason games and at camp and practice only makes sense to me. Consistency with the backup will benefit everyone over changing them year after year. The Bills don't need an "older" mentor for Josh. Actually, they need a guy similar in age for JA to work with. An ideal guy would be someone who would play with similar traits as Josh. Drew Lock, Kyle Allen and there are others, should work out nicely.

I'm down with one of these 26- to 27-year-olds (there are a number of them) to sign to a 2–3-year contract. Get one who has started some games and try to develop him in the Bills system for a long-term backup. Minshew, Rypien, Lock, Mullens or Allen. They are at the junction of their careers knowing they have no real chance at starting. Get the guy whose head is now set on backup for a long time.

The money is part of it for me, but the bigger thing is the gameday roster limit. Typically, it hasn't hurt the Bills, but it did last year. This thread will be great to look at once the team gets filled out and ready for camp. Then a comparison can be made if anything has changed.

Good thread and great info @MJS. I too was going to bring up the Kumerow thing. I am not an anti-STer. I do think it will be pared back some this year. Lots against the Dirty Red re-sign, but not me. I also think Siran Neal will not make the 53 this year. Zayne Anderson will likely replace him for cheaper. Beane will keep a ST core, but I think they will also play a better role as depth.

I agree it was structured with that in mind. It is more of a risk after his injury. I for one will be very hopeful on his recovery!

I don't mind it at all. He is the captain of the STs and is pretty good at it. Having a couple of ST'ers is fine with me. It's the 5 or more that get me aggravated. I tend to agree with you, but it's done. He's a 4-year contract now. If his play falls way off Beane will just have to eat the money and move on. Truthfully, I was a little shocked they restructured him fully. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/von-miller-7717/

Cam Lewis is not costing cap space. He is no different than when the Bills sign a bunch of UDFAs after the draft.

They are going to have to take another $1.7M or so off when Phillips and Saffold's void years move to dead money and 2 low tier guys go on the 51. Good news Beane is under the cap and has some working capital. I could see another restructure for some smaller $s if he needs it.

Spotrac has the restructure $ in. Also already has the Hines and Settle redo's and Sam Martin. Bills now with $15M They have Milano still at $13M. But it will be $6M less. Don't have McGovern, Dirty Red and Lewis. But that seem to be a wash with the Milano savings. Just about $15M in cap space when all this washes out. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/

I haven't heard the Milano 2023 cost of $6M, but if that is correct, I add things up to around $16M. So, we are in sync.

There are a lot of angry Bills fans on this board right now. I think I'll take a break. Beane spent the day negotiating a Cam Lewis contract for vet minimum. I'm done with this team. sarcasm.

It would be nice to have a guy a little better than both of those.

Ralph is cheap. Beane is foolish signing VERSATILE players. Am I doing this right?

Oliver will be another if he thinks he is getting north of $10M per year on a multi-year contract. I'm not worried about Diggs and his performance this year.

Not at all. DC needed to change. D was stale. If 1 or even 2 players want to move out of 53+, it's no big thing.

My comment was on his season and injury. I should not have even posted something about PFF. I am never going to base players on that system. I will have to live with the NFL teams and their staff to make judgements. My philosophy is to fill holes with mid-level FAs and use the draft to find long term players. Chasing big name FAs (especially IOLs) is risky at best. Their play is tough to measure due to the "teamwork" needed. Cowboys OL was decimated with injuries last season. Beane (I hope) uses some draft capital to add to the OL.

Aaron Rodgers is "tampering" with the Jets.

I believe it was highlighting his athletic ability. At least that is how I took the comment.

You're right. I read it more as at his age of 34 if his play wasn't good, they can get out cheap. I actually thought he would cost a little more with more guarantee. I like the signing and hope he plays well for 3 years.

You're looking at this backwards. Beane will sign the players he wants and they agree to terms. He will free up what he needs after that. None of us will know (including agents and players) how much he is willing to restructure. IMO, it's the smart way to do it.