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Another "source" told TBD that the new Bills stadium was being in Dunkirk too....still hope that Gronk does retire

I think that Reich will be a good coach. He always had a great kind for football, and I get the impression that he learned a from Pederson. Will always be pulling for Frank and the Colts as my second favorite team.

Lake was a great WR back in the day for the Irish

I can’t believe it took Marv 4 years to fire Walt Corey as DC. He should have been gone after the SB26z. Instead Marv waited 3 more full seasons to pull the plug. Wade care in and took the defense to #1

Hmmmm didn’t Patriots have a kicker that actually won a Super Bowl with a 47 yard FG?

Ok dumb question but what happened to the skin on his face. Is it a birth defect or was that from an accident. I always have wondered what happened to him

Gil Brandt is so old.

I don’t disagree. But my point was that kicker was one of the few weak spots during 1990 and 1991. Norwood’s inability to make long kicks in grass really was on display in Super Bowl 25

How much of that is talent vs coaching. The talent and production of players speaks for itself. I’m thinking coaching deserves the bigger part of the blame

William C Rott and SOns! Yes that's the annoying roofing one.

The reason why he's polarizing is because games like Jacksonville. It was an unbelievably frustrating game that was likely lost because of poor QB play. Tyrod has never been very effective against good defenses that keep him in the pocket. He has a pretty stellar track record of not being able to beat a good defense. He also has a stellar track record of not being able to bring his team back from behind. I like Tyrod, but I don't think unreasonable to think that Bills can't find a QB that can be more productive.

LOL....the jingle is so annoying I refuse to listen. That's how bad it is

I seriously want to know who they are using for the music. Because it's bad...really bad. Listen to radio in other market and you never hear music/commercials which come off sounding so bad. I'm guessing they go through production companies for the music - but it's horrendously bad. Glad there are at least 2 other people that agree

This makes no sense. Are you saying there weren't any weak links? Or any strong links? We all know there were definitely All-Pro and Hall of Fame players who played on these teams Good response @Boatdrinks Glad someone else here likes to talk Super Bowl era Bills. So we are in agreement that K and NT were two huge weaknesses. I didn't realize the Bills wanted to draft Ted back then. I agree, that one addition could have been huge to the defense. What baffles me if why the Bills wanted 4 years before finally understanding (probably under the encourage of Wade) that they needed to replace Jeff Wright. In fact, they replaced him with Ted Washington! Look at the defense in 1995 and 1996. Great point about coaching. While Marv might have been a delegator, I feel that he really should have made the move to get rid of Walt Corey years before 1994. Probably after the 1993 Super Bowl at the latest.

Man, as a Bills fan I love WGR - especially during Bills seasons. But I cannot stand it when they go to commercial breaks because the commercials are unbearable to listen to. It's been like this for years. So many bad jingles and overall bad commercials. Here's a few I can't stand: Franco's Pizza This is just Bulldog trying to read an advertisement but it's horrendous. His reads are the worst and this one is no exception. He is out of speaking so fast you can hear him trying to catch his breath. But the worst is how he changes pronunciation of the name "Franco." Throughout the commercial he pronounces it "Frain-coes" but then when he mentions the owner he calls him "Frahn-co." LOL did it ever occur to him that the owner named the pizza joint after himself? Kenny Carpets The artist who came up with "Do The Kenny" really needs to choose a new profession. Ditto to whoever green lit that commercial to run on-air Puccillo Fitness Gear Awful jingle, awful concept for a concept. P-U-C-I-L-L-O fitness gear. There's a four letter word (followed by a three letter word) I'd like to shout at whoever wrote that commercial. I don't hear this anymore but there was one for some roofing company which was probably the worst concept for a commercial ever. These are just a few - but I'm sure other listeners can share their suggestions as well.

I'm hoping Reich gets his shot. I always thought he'd be a good coach going back to his day with the Bills

Does Dunkirk Don have a Facebook page now?

So I'm watching "The Two Bills" on ESPN and this forced to relive Super Bowl 25. It truly maddening to see Belichick and Parcels completely out-coached Marv Levy. But there's a great clip they play where right when Scott Norwood was lining up for the field goal, Parcels and Matt Bahr were questioning if he even could make a kick of that length. That really made me realize that when you have a kicker who is 50/50 from 46, it's clearly a weakness that should have been addressed. There really were some very weak spots on the Bills, that were clearly overshadowed. So what were some of the weakeness (among many strengths) of the Bills Super Bowl Teams. 1. Scott Norwood Norwood is somewhat of a cult hero here in Buffalo. The simple fact that he was not a great kicker by 1990-91. He had one very good Pro Bowl year in 1988, but his stats declined fairly rapidly since. In fact, the season after his missed kick in Super Bowl 25 was his final one. As it was clear, he was no longer a dependable kicker. Norwood was only 60% between 40-49 yards in 1990, didn't have the leg to attempt a FG over 49 yards and also was not very good on natural grass. Watching that last drive, it seemed that the Bills were very content to settle to put the game on the line w/ a kicker who was shaky at best from that distance. I know he took a lot of blame for missing that kick, but you can make the argument that asking him to make a kick of that distance was beyond a reasonable expectation given his ability/performance in 1990. Sadly this was realized about 2 years two late when the Bills went out of their way to sign one of the top kickers on the FA Market in Steve Christie. A sign of a great GM/Coach, is knowing when to move on from a player BEFORE it's too late. Sadly the Bills and Polian did not do this in 1990, and it's a big reason why the lost Super Bowl 25. 2. Cornerback #2 The Bills were thought to be in good position at CB during the start of the 1989 season were Derrick Burroughs and Nate Odomes. The problem was Burroughs suffered a career ending injury. While Odomes play continued to rise from that point, the Bills never really found a player of Burroughs' caliber on the other side. This included JD Williams who Polian drafted in 1989 specifically as an upgrade from Kirby Jackson the starter in 1989. This turned out to be one of Polian's most notable draft busts during this time period. Williams was a pretty lousy CB and while he was fast, he certainly did not have the production or skills to be a capable starting CB. Jackson, was a passable starter, but he was perhaps one of the weakest starters on the team. While he put together a few decent seasons and made some big plays at time, he also gave up many long completions and I think it's fair to say his play was inconsistent. Polian tried to address the CB position in 1991 again by drafting Henry Jones to play CB. While he never played much CB, he did have a very productive career. Other CB's like Dwight Drane or Clifford Hicks were bottom of the roster talents that were just not very good. Stronger play at CB opposite Odomes was something the defense clearly lacked. 3. Jeff Wright NT I remember during the 1994 season where the Bills failed to make the playoffs after reaching 4 straight Super Bowls. Coach Chuck Dickerson used to rag on Jeff Wright all of the time - and he was 100% right. Jeff Wright made some memorable plays on the Bills defense, and seemed to do a decent job rushing the passer. But IMO I think he was the recipient of playing on a front 7 with several great players who could get after players (Bruce, Hanson, Bennett, Talley etc). Wright was very undersized for a NT (6-2, 274 pounds) and the Bills DL was often susceptible to bigger, physical offensive lines who pounded the football - especially in the Super Bowl. Wright was a big reason why. Wright's last season was in 1994. He never played for another team after he was finished with the Bills and I don't believe it had anything to do with injuries, retirement, or health. That's a telling fact. You can make an argument that a bigger, stronger NT might have really made a better impact on the ground. 4. Carwell Gardner, FB Yes this is a bit of stretch. But remember the Bills were stacked on offense and finding a weakness was a little challenging. The Bills ran out of a 3 WR set quite a bit but there were plenty of times when the did use a 2 back set as well. When you think of some of the versatile fullback of the time (Tom Rathman, Christian Okoye, John Williams, Keith Byars, Daryl Johnston) having more production from the fullback position could have been deadly. Gardner was a second round draft pick and I don't really feel that he ever lived up to his draft status as he was primarily a blocker for Thurman and Kenneth Davis. Again, it could have been how he was used. 5. Walt Corey - Defensive Coordinator The Bills Super Bowl defense largely will be remembered as "bend but don't break." Given the talent on the team, I feel that they should have been much more dominant that they actually were on the field. I'm placing a lot of the blame here on the coaching, in particular DC Walt Corey, for really not getting enough out of a tremendously talented group. When was one-time when you can say - "Wow the Bills put together a stellar defensive plan?" Maybe in 1991 vs. Denver? Those are my picks - how about yours? So who are some of your choices?

So listening to Jeremy White interview Fred on WGR basically confirmed everything I said in the original post. Fred seems like a very nice and humble guy, but not a humorous guy in any way or a good storyteller. Jeremy who can be funny in a sarcastic way, had no material. It was a nice interview but there was no laughs and my prediction is that the roast will be the same.

I wouldn’t see this as a huge loss. It definitely doesn’t help the team but not disasterous. Seems like McDermott runs the defense

This sounds like total BS. Definitely more of a personal issue than a reason to effect his employment but I’ll wait for the details. Could be a lot more to it

Yes I do! There’s a lot of material on all 3 of the players you mentioned. We’re talking a roast here...not a lot of material on Fred

Yep not saying it’s everything. But Philadelphia just displayed why ignoring analytics in football is well...ignorant

Back in 2013, when Uncle Russ Brandon announced his plan for a "robust analytics department," I'm pretty sure this is what he had in mind. In 2010, Howard Rosenman hired a Harvard graduate, Alec Hanaby, with a background in economics and analytics as a special assistant to help out with personnel. He made many key decisions that helped the team and he's now Vice President of Football operations. The article below discusses how Pederson relies on a 27 year old Dartmouth graduate named Ryan Paganetti, to dictate the crucial decisions on the field based on analytics. https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/football/super-bowl/math-inclined-assistant-has-eagles-coach-doug-pedersons-ear/ I'm posting this only because when news broke of the Bills disbanding their very "robust" analytics department, there were several members here who said things like "analytics have no place no place in football" or "analytics work in baseball but no in football when you have 11 players every play." Sorry but I feel that the Eagles win last night was proof that yes, analytics DO have a place in football and if you have a coach who's smart enough to use the information to his advantage, you just might win. Want more proof? Here you go: This season, the Eagles converted 65.4 percent of fourth-down attempts, third-best in the NFL and first among teams with more than 15 attempts. They finished 17 of 26 overall. One of those nine failed fourth downs ended a game. On the other eight that led to an opponent drive, Philadelphia allowed no points. Pederson is instrumental to the offense’s fourth-down success rate. One example is communication. Eagles coaches proactively consider whether to attempt a fourth-down conversion, their discussion beginning before a third down play — such as the Wentz incompletion preceding the Jeffery touchdown on Dec. 10 — or well prior to that. There are instances around the NFL when a head coach, indecisive on fourth down, must burn a timeout.

Don't tell the Bills fans that they have a conservative head coach