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Cmon bangarang, you say this every year. I listed half the darn prospects in the 1st round not including QBs! Pick one!

Keep it down, you’re going to get my thread flagged.

High 5! That’s who I picked too!

So obviously not every single one of these players will truly be available in RL, but I’m just trying to get a pulse on the heart of Bills Mafia to get a feel for who you guys want. Sorry if I forgot anyone, please choose other and leave their name in the comments section below.

Ain’t that the truth, it makes me wonder.

I would not argue against either of them, but in the end I would hope for a player for player trade. Barkley interests me, Toney interests me, I would take both of them if I could! I wonder if they would be interested in any of the following players: 1. Jon Feliciano 2. Cody Ford 3. Tremaine Edmunds 4. Cole Beasley 5. Zack Moss 6. AJ Epenesa

I started a thread a few months ago about Barkley. Honestly, I think a conditional 3rd in 2023 would get it done, but honestly, I think I would rather have Toney than Barkley. They did hire Bobby Johnson our old OL coach, maybe Feliciano would get it done? I know the Giants need some serious help on the OL and Johnson/Feliciano have known each other since 2015. Cody Ford could be an option too. In that event, Buffalo should just sign Bates to a cheap 2 year deal and draft a guy.

I was angrier than hell that they tried forcing the Cody Ford business. He sucks, he’s beyond terrible and he’s slightly below average on a good day. I have no idea what Beane saw in him when he drafted him. Spain saw that Ford was their golden boy and he had to make a business decision in the end.

I would take a 2nd for Edmunds in a heartbeat and then I would draft Channing Tindall from Georgia. Reminds me a bit of London Fletcher, except he has the closing speed of Ray Lewis. Could possibly even land him at the top or middle of the 3rd round. Would free up a ton of cap room at the same time!

This signing makes me want to put on my happy face.

Nope. We need a corner. Give me Kaiir Elam or Andrew Booth Jr at #25 and call it a day. The draft is so deep there that I think we can obtain a quality starter there no problem. I also think that Boogie and Groot are good enough to get it done.

Feliciano and a 3rd for Toney, straight up!

Bills fans have an amusing infatuation with UDFA/7th picks at WR. First it was Martin Nance and then that DaRick Rogers guy. How often does that work out? I’m not saying it never happens, but it’s like finding a needle in a haystack. I think Stevie Johnson is the only one that I can think of in recent memory that actually panned out. I think WR is a huge need for this team as well, the only reason I didn’t include it in our draft needs is because I think Buffalo needs to go here in FA. I’ll admit that there’s a few guys I’m salivating over in the draft, mainly that kid from USC and that kid from Kentucky, but WR typically has a steep learning curve and I think that there’s some really quality plug in play guys in FA that would provide us with great value financially and could provide us instantly with a high level of production. I think that Buffalo should ultimately go corner and OL in the draft, mainly because we can free up big money here by cutting Feliciano and by not overpaying an average corner like Levi Wallace big money. I would also argue that a solid LB is a necessity as well. I like the Tindall kid from Georgia, he’s probably a big upgrade over Edmunds, Klein and Matekavich and we would be paying him a lot less money and we could hopefully free up even more cap room here as well.

To me, I think CB, OG, LB and NT are our biggest needs. Especially corner, give me a corner over a safety in a NY minute. Picture this, Levi Wallace is a FA, spotrac is projecting his yearly salary to be around $9M/yr. Do you want Buffalo to sink that much money into a player of that caliber? Look what you’re getting! Draft a CB RD1, preferably someone with the last name Elam or Booth Jr. OG is also a big need as well. I love me some Bates, but if we get a killer guard we can cut Feliciano and free up some cap room. And btw, not to skip over your previous post on Stevenson, but the guy doesn’t look fit for the NFL. I think he’ll be out of the league in 2-3 years. Hopefully he sticks around long enough to get a pension. Didn’t he fumble the ball in the playoffs?

They were both incredible this year. Poyer and Hyde are probably the best safety tandem in the league. They feast on QBs like a school of piranhas out there, 10 INTs between the two of them, that’s very uncommon in the NFL to have that level of production.

Because of his name he will be paid big money and frankly I don’t see him as a true play maker anymore. Knox is by far the better TE at this point, give that money to Knox.

In no way will Stevenson ever amount to anything, he’s terrible. If Stevenson is starting for us in any way we are in trouble. Wan’Dale is a potentially elite slot WR.

I agree that Beasley is towards the end of his career, but can he still move the chains? I would say so. Should he be a focal point in our offense? Probably not, but if he takes a pay cut and wants to stick around as a depth piece I’d love to have him. He’s probably good for 40-50 catches. Keep in mind that he’s a smart player and he has solid hands and is an excellent route runner and Allen knows him and trusts him and they have chemistry together. I’m pretty sure Allen wants him back and that counts for something. Anyways, I’m not a mind reader, but if I had to read between the lines and make a guess, I would think that Beane is posturing towards Beeze to take a pay cut if he wants to stay. I think what ultimately determines the outcome is the bottom line financially for both parties. If Beasley thinks he can get more money elsewhere, he’ll leave. If he thinks he can’t? He’ll stay. We all know he’s lost a step, but there is still value there at the right price. Also, if our #1, #2 or #3 WR goes down, he would be a nice safety net for Allen.

My #1 guy is Kaiir Elam the CB from Florida. The guy’s incredible, there is a very real chance that he will be there at #25. Kid has Jalen Ramsey type of potential. He’s lengthy at 6’2, great ball skills and the kid is a monster in run defense too. I see him as a potential Pro Bowl player over time. Perfect guy to pair up with Tre.

They see him as a bottom of the 2nd round kind of guy. I’m not sure if he will be there in RD3, but he’s an incredible talent and would give us a bonafide slot receiver behind Diggs and Davis. I would love to see Beasley mentor him for a year before his contract runs out.

It’s bad character, no doubt. Did he cross an unforgivable line though? No. Punk kids get into fights because of pride, it’s much easier to just walk away. I will say this though, I do see an opportunity to get him on the cheap after this. He is an elite play maker and I believe in second chances. Kamara would supercharge that RB position and Singletary would be the perfect backup to him. But once again, shame on him for acting the way he did, but like most young men his age, he didn’t see the long play, but I think after getting suspended he’ll learn quickly. People mature and change over time.

I would love it if the Bills went after Wan’Dale Robinson the WR from Kentucky. He is Lil Dirty + Beezer all wrapped up in one. He is that explosive slot receiver that we need on offense.

(traded down) 41. Zion Johnson OG Boston College 57. Wan'Dale Robinson WR Kentucky 89. Channing Tindall LB Georgia 113. Alontae Taylor CB Tennessee 127. Josh Jobe CB Alabama 167. Tayland Humphrey DT Louisiana 185. Brock Hoffman OC Virginia Tech 204. Chigoziem Okonkwo TE Maryland 230. Tanner Conner WR Idaho State 245. Otito Ogbonnia DT UCLA Extra picks: 2023 SEA 2nd

Yes, sir. I suppose I disagree with Beane then? I thought Lotulelei was solid, if not more than solid. Probably his best season as a Bill. I think the biggest problem that our D faces is the soft cookie cutter scheme that we’re running. The fact that McD hasn’t fired Frazier yet to me is a huge lack of accountability on his part. Until this Bills team gets more aggressive and starts attacking, our players will continue to languish as a result of it.

I’m wondering if he’ll also act as our run game coordinator as well? Obviously Dorsey has tons of experience with QBs and the passing game, but I’m wondering if Kromer will help him come up with some run plays as well? He’s a nice guy for Dorsey to lean on though, that’s for sure.