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It infuriates me. At times I feel like I'm arguing with people that never even watched these guys play. I'm not even talking about actively scouting players but just 15-20 minutes of highlight reels and game tape, I feel like a big chunk of debbie downers haven't even done that.

Wtf does that have to do with anything? Why character assassinate? This is Beane's first draft, how do you know exactly? That's right, you don't. Maybe if you took the 30-45 minutes a day that you spend posting nonsense here and instead watched some tape you'd know that this was a very good haul.

You got to factor in that this is a football forum and football forums don't necessarily attract the smartest people. The fans that bother me the most are the ones with the really strong opinions and you can tell that they never watched the player in question play before. They go off of what analysts and experts say instead of watching guys for an hour on YouTube.

Well, honestly, I sincerely question how much football you've watched. I mean, did you at least watch 25-30 minutes of highlight videos before you judge? You could at least do that. You're not entitled to an opinion until you at least do that. Edmunds is 6'5 250lbs and has drawn comparisons to Brian Urlacher. Edmunds is not only the best LB in the draft, he has the ability to be better than Luke Kuechly.

I think that debate won't be a thing by the end of the year. Tyrod's gone, McCarron is a journeyman, Allen will come in midway through the season, fans will be calling for him.

If he ends up anything remotely like Wentz I am happy.

I like the Cam Newton comparison but the Ben Roethlisberger comparison you are going to hear a lot.

Barring a !@#$ed up career ending injury I just don't see how Allen busts. How are other people not seeing what I'm seeing? The kid is humble and down to earth, high football IQ, crazy athletic ability, biggest arm in a decade, how can he fail? Fans have no idea what they're getting, you are going to be very very pleasantly surprised.

You're still a Bills fan so you're cool by me.

That's fair but I like the fact that we drafted two of the biggest boom or bust prospects in the draft. Allen and Edmunds have a higher ceiling than anyone else at their respective positions. Sure, they could bust but we could also end up with the next Big Ben and Brian Urlacher.

You want a DT over a QB??? Really? We signed Lotulelei and we drafted a steal in Harrison Phillips. What QB could we of had at #96? You would rather take an OT or a WR over a generational talent at LB? What QB will Wynn protect? Who will get Moore the ball?? Edmunds is the best LB in the draft and has the potential to be the best LB in the entire NFL.

I look at the fact that Edmunds is only 20 as a tremendous advantage. Boy, I remember all the testosterone running through my body that age. Lots of more wiggle, less wear and tear on them bones. Edmunds is a generational LB prospect, we are talking about a guy that may be discussed as perhaps a better talent than Luke Kuechly. Milano is a stud, they apparently like Tanner Vallejo but I think the guy we're going to see surprise a lot of people is Siran Neal. Apparently they are going to try him out mainly as safety but don't get it twisted he will be playing LB as well. Lorax is old and slow but can still be effective if used right, I think we're OK.

Ability to extend plays, I think that's a lot of fun to watch, it's what I liked most about Tyrod. Nobody does it better than Big Ben.

He can tackle too. Now we got Tre, Taron, Vontae, Siran, Micah and Jordan roaming around in our secondary and all of them know how to hit, very scary if you're a receiver or a running back.

That was really stupid.

I hope to God they have Neal gain a few lbs and play LB. Milano, Edmunds and Neal would be ridiculous.

I'd rather have him over McCloud and Proehl.

He has All Pro talent though, no other LB available at 22 has anywhere near the ceiling, we didn't really miss out on much. Edmunds was projected at #7 in most mocks I read. #7=1,500 #22 + #65 = 1,045 Matter of fact what we got was a highway robbery.

Same hypothetical applies to your prospect.

Edmunds is a Brian Urlacher clone, we're talking about an All-Pro caliber prospect. This guy doesn't just have the potential to be a top 5 MLB in the league, he has the potential to be the very best LB in the league. Screw 65, I'll take the All-Pro.

Don't put words in my mouth, I meant All-Pro. I think Allen is the best QB in the draft and Edmunds has a Brian Urlacher ceiling. This is the best draft I've seen for the Bills in my 31 years as a fan.

I felt like the Bills could have had a very average draft if Harrison Phillips wasn't there at #96. Was anybody really expecting that? I think Allen and Edmunds will be All-Pros but if you only walk away with 2 starters from your draft with so many picks, that's terrible but I would bet both my testicles we walk away with 3 high end starters minimum, could even be 4 with Siran Neal, that was a nice midround pick for us.

What do you guys think? New England drafted a 1st round RB with bone on bone his knees, felt like they blew that pick, he would of been there in the 3rd. The Jets scored Darnold very high but jeez they sure didn't do anything to help him, he is going to get killed behind that line and he will have no targets to throw to. The Jets drafted a guy that had all the help in the world at USC and now he is playing at the pro level with less help than he had in college! (As much as people want to criticize our roster, Josh Allen played with absolutely no help at Wyoming whereas now he has Shady, Benjamin, Clay and a budding player in O'Leary, it should be interesting to see how this plays out.) The Dolphins I felt had a solid draft, Fitzpatrick a Gesicki were solid high end picks, I'd give them a solid B+ for their draft grade.

Well, we still got Shady, Benjamin and Clay, those are some nice targets. Maybe Zay can turn his career around? OL isn't as bad as many think, definitely our weakness but Dawkins is a stud at LT and Bodine has a ton of experience at center. Groy and Miller can develop into serviceable starters, at least for a year. I don't think Allen is going to start much of the year, at most I could see him in there for 5-7 games, it's basically going to be a redshirt year for him, as it should be IMO. McCarron on the other hand is going into an awful situation.

He will be a good return guy, he has value on special teams, doubt he will ever be an impact player at WR.