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Kyle Williams can play for Buffalo for as long as he wants, still a great player, one of the best Bills of all time. Would he want to though? We aren't exactly competing for a Lombardi trophy and I don't think #95 will ever have to worry about money again, he strikes me as the kind of guy who will manage his wealth extremely well.

Could be. Who says I'm right? Just my perception and my perception could be wrong.

That would be exactly where I'd look next. Is there an elite LT available? If we're picking that high, maybe we can land the next Joe Thomas. Dawkins has been good, but not elite.

I like the Pegulas, Terry will be a good owner. He did end the drought, he takes ownership for our failures under him so when we do make the playoffs he deserves all the glory.

They're actually not bad at drafting, McD can draft defense like it's nobody's business. Offense though? It's impossible to make an informed decision because they never draft offense! Watch, it'll be a DB!

Too bad there is no Saquan Barkley prospect this year. I think Josh could benefit the most from a good run attack.

Thank God, someone else sees it too. Good post brother, good post.

And the truth is and to me it's a very disturbing truth but in my mind, the truth nonetheless, but nobody is beating the Buffalo Bills but the Buffalo Bills and I think that's sad. We've actually had a few really solid players in the draft I thought, guys that we could build something with, but nope, gone like the wind. None of these players were perfect people but so what, nobody is, they're still our guys and we handpicked them.

Oh no!!!! McBean has the steel chair!!! What is he doing with that steel chair????? He is walking towards @Rebel101 with the steel chair!!!!!!!!

I think McDermott doesn't know offense, first he hired Dennison and now Daboll. You say it's talent, I say it's coaching. What I think will happen is we'll bring in a bunch of fresh bodies and nothing will change. Same old Bills.

Well, if he wants to run, he is a complete failure at it honestly. The reason why I feel we are passing too much is more of a reflection on the dubious passing situations they are putting Allen in. Expecting him to convert 3rd and 16 or 3rd and 20 is way too much for a top 5 QB let alone an extremely raw project. Numbers and attempts only tell you so much. I'd be okay with passing more if they were 1 yard screens, but 20 attempts or not Allen was put in some dubious situations where he needed to complete 20 yard strikes. Do you understand?

I explained my views on Allen, they expect him to play hero ball which is why his numbers are so bad. If Daboll wants to pound the ball or if he is trying to is the wrong question, the question is, has he been successful at it? If you agree that Daboll has been putrid at running the football #1 - Who picks up the slack? #2- Why exactly are you disagreeing with me?

In the end, we are trying to run, but we haven't been to successful at it, have we? Did you read my entire post through? You know, the post you quoted me on? Ivory is averaging what? 2.5ypc? Murphy probably doesn't even have 20 attempts on the year. What does this lack of a running attack mean for Allen? Or all the penalties? Yep, it means 3rd and long, he's expected to convert ridiculous odds, most of the time even a top 5 QB would struggle with. My perception is not as absurd as you make it seem.

I do. And dude, did you read my reply to you? How many 3rd & 20 situations have we put Allen in? Which may be why my perception is such, they never put Allen in any easy passing situations, he's always expected to do something heroic.

Which could be perpetuated by penalties, no running game and 3rd & 20 situations they seem to have a penchant for putting Allen in.

Indeed, we shall see. And I hope you are correct, I'd love to be wrong, I just don't see it. We will gut the offense, many of these players will start somewhere else and do fairly well. McDermott will get his guys on offense and if he fails? He will get fired, some new coach will come in and gut the entire roster again. Alas, we will have come full circle in the cycle of self cannibalization that is which the Buffalo Bills.

But Hogan and Woods weren't good according to fans and management. I'm not saying every player is good, I'm saying that we have a tendency of throwing out entire ribeye steaks instead of simply trimming the fat. Meanwhile all 31 NFL teams grab their lunch trays and line up for an all you can eat buffet at our expense. We draft good players extremely high and in 4 years they're out the door. Identifying which players we should keep has been a problem historically speaking for Buffalo. We have a history of straight cutting underperforming starters instead of drafting or signing competition which would improve the quality of the starting unit and the depth behind them. To me it's like a snake eating it's own tail.

I would trade down, but that was not the question. The question was, would I take Oliver or Bosa? And for me, I would take an elite DE over an elite DT any day. Besides, I think even if KW retires we got 3 solid guys there. DE is a premium position and with the Bosa family's pedigree, yes, I have to draft the Buckeye.

I bet you some other NFL franchise could squeeze another 1,000 yard season or two out of Shady. Also wouldn't be surprised if Zay Jones became a productive starter somewhere else, same for Kelvin Benjamin and Charles Clay. We always blame talent, until our guys go somewhere else and blossom and we're left with nothing to show for. Watch the NFL teams circle us like a pack of hyenas when we gut our offense, watch.

We said the same thing about Hogan and Woods, not good enough for us but good enough to be cornerstones for franchises contending for Super Bowl titles every year. If we did gut our offense completely, the vultures would come circling and they would pick our corpse dry to the bone, it's happened enough times over the years that I'm seeing a pattern here.

Ok, once again, if we gut our entire offense, all of our players, gone. Would you GunnerBill be shocked if some of our guys went to NE, KC and LA and started for them? I wouldn't be, not one bit.

The whole 'talent' argument. First off, I'm not so sure about that. Shady has had a HOF career and he has really struggled this year, once again, it's like no thought was put into our run blocking designs, none. Ivory and Murphy should also be way more productive, I miss the complexity of Greg Roman's run designs, I think Allen could really benefit from being on a power run team. This offense Daboll is running is for more polished and seasoned QBs, not someone that should have been sat down a year. Bottom line, this offense is meant to create mismatches in the passing game, which in theory sounds great if you have a QB that is developed, which we do not. So far Daboll's offense has been a complete disaster in terms of running the football. How much of this is talent? Let me ask you guys this, if we gutted our entire offense, all of the players, gone. Would you be surprised if some of our guys ended up with New England, LA and KC?

Ok. I say we need to run more often and more effectively. What do you disagree with exactly?

He deserves a lot of blame, expecting an extremely raw QB lead an aerial attack is naive. This offense should be predicated on pounding the football with Allen occasionally airing it out to keep defenses honest. Shady is also being completely misused, guy should be used much more strategically than what he has. Murphy and Ivory should be in on 1st and 2nd down, not Shady. You put Shady in within the 20 and crucial 3rd down situations where we need to convert. Also, there is no creativity in run designs, it's like we're still in the preseason. Daboll wants to throw all the time when he should be trying to pound the ball.

Trade down for sure, then I'd take the best center in the draft. I'd do whatever it takes to build a power run team, plug in the next Nick Mangold prospect and pound the ball. I think Dawkins and Mills have been acceptable, but all three spots inside are dire. A center would give Allen a clean pocket to step up in and hopefully open up some running lanes at the same time. I'd keep Bodine as our backup guy, everyone else on the interior can hit the road.