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In the end, we are trying to run, but we haven't been to successful at it, have we? Did you read my entire post through? You know, the post you quoted me on? Ivory is averaging what? 2.5ypc? Murphy probably doesn't even have 20 attempts on the year. What does this lack of a running attack mean for Allen? Or all the penalties? Yep, it means 3rd and long, he's expected to convert ridiculous odds, most of the time even a top 5 QB would struggle with. My perception is not as absurd as you make it seem.

I do. And dude, did you read my reply to you? How many 3rd & 20 situations have we put Allen in? Which may be why my perception is such, they never put Allen in any easy passing situations, he's always expected to do something heroic.

Which could be perpetuated by penalties, no running game and 3rd & 20 situations they seem to have a penchant for putting Allen in.

Indeed, we shall see. And I hope you are correct, I'd love to be wrong, I just don't see it. We will gut the offense, many of these players will start somewhere else and do fairly well. McDermott will get his guys on offense and if he fails? He will get fired, some new coach will come in and gut the entire roster again. Alas, we will have come full circle in the cycle of self cannibalization that is which the Buffalo Bills.

But Hogan and Woods weren't good according to fans and management. I'm not saying every player is good, I'm saying that we have a tendency of throwing out entire ribeye steaks instead of simply trimming the fat. Meanwhile all 31 NFL teams grab their lunch trays and line up for an all you can eat buffet at our expense. We draft good players extremely high and in 4 years they're out the door. Identifying which players we should keep has been a problem historically speaking for Buffalo. We have a history of straight cutting underperforming starters instead of drafting or signing competition which would improve the quality of the starting unit and the depth behind them. To me it's like a snake eating it's own tail.

I would trade down, but that was not the question. The question was, would I take Oliver or Bosa? And for me, I would take an elite DE over an elite DT any day. Besides, I think even if KW retires we got 3 solid guys there. DE is a premium position and with the Bosa family's pedigree, yes, I have to draft the Buckeye.

I bet you some other NFL franchise could squeeze another 1,000 yard season or two out of Shady. Also wouldn't be surprised if Zay Jones became a productive starter somewhere else, same for Kelvin Benjamin and Charles Clay. We always blame talent, until our guys go somewhere else and blossom and we're left with nothing to show for. Watch the NFL teams circle us like a pack of hyenas when we gut our offense, watch.

We said the same thing about Hogan and Woods, not good enough for us but good enough to be cornerstones for franchises contending for Super Bowl titles every year. If we did gut our offense completely, the vultures would come circling and they would pick our corpse dry to the bone, it's happened enough times over the years that I'm seeing a pattern here.

Ok, once again, if we gut our entire offense, all of our players, gone. Would you GunnerBill be shocked if some of our guys went to NE, KC and LA and started for them? I wouldn't be, not one bit.

The whole 'talent' argument. First off, I'm not so sure about that. Shady has had a HOF career and he has really struggled this year, once again, it's like no thought was put into our run blocking designs, none. Ivory and Murphy should also be way more productive, I miss the complexity of Greg Roman's run designs, I think Allen could really benefit from being on a power run team. This offense Daboll is running is for more polished and seasoned QBs, not someone that should have been sat down a year. Bottom line, this offense is meant to create mismatches in the passing game, which in theory sounds great if you have a QB that is developed, which we do not. So far Daboll's offense has been a complete disaster in terms of running the football. How much of this is talent? Let me ask you guys this, if we gutted our entire offense, all of the players, gone. Would you be surprised if some of our guys ended up with New England, LA and KC?

Ok. I say we need to run more often and more effectively. What do you disagree with exactly?

He deserves a lot of blame, expecting an extremely raw QB lead an aerial attack is naive. This offense should be predicated on pounding the football with Allen occasionally airing it out to keep defenses honest. Shady is also being completely misused, guy should be used much more strategically than what he has. Murphy and Ivory should be in on 1st and 2nd down, not Shady. You put Shady in within the 20 and crucial 3rd down situations where we need to convert. Also, there is no creativity in run designs, it's like we're still in the preseason. Daboll wants to throw all the time when he should be trying to pound the ball.

Trade down for sure, then I'd take the best center in the draft. I'd do whatever it takes to build a power run team, plug in the next Nick Mangold prospect and pound the ball. I think Dawkins and Mills have been acceptable, but all three spots inside are dire. A center would give Allen a clean pocket to step up in and hopefully open up some running lanes at the same time. I'd keep Bodine as our backup guy, everyone else on the interior can hit the road.

Best part about it is, when McD gets fired and we hire a new HC, he's going to come in and cut the players McD drafted on defense. The cycle never ends, we will always be a farm team for the NFL.

McDermott cannot develop QBs, nor can any coach on the staff.

What do you think? How about another defensive coordinator from somewhere?

Are you sure? We can always fire McDermott and hire a new coach! And then our new coach can trade away Tredavious White and Micah Hyde because they are not his guys!

This is incredibly saddening to me.

Cleveland isn't exactly a team I'd try to emulate and Baker Mayfield was about as pro ready as you can get. Tyrod was good for 3,200 yards and 20 TDS while practically never turning the ball over. Tyrod with this defense and we'd be a lock for the playoffs.

Allen is not ready, yes, I would have sat him down for a couple years. That's just my opinion, you can disagree all you want I really don't care. This was Tyrods team, he ended the drought and McD in my mind screwed him. That's just how I see it. With Tyrod we'd be in the playoffs again this year. Sure he had his faults, but was the alternative better? Was it?

I would have kept Tyrod, plain and simple. Go ahead and flame away but Tyrod was a hustler, Allen could have learned a lot from him. Tyrod was a good human being and a better QB than Allen at this point. Could have sat Allen down for a few years while Tyrod took us to the playoffs. We had the ideal teacher, Tyrod would have gladly taught Allen and with a smile on his face.

Atlanta, Indy and Green Bay should be easy wins.

Well, Philly may have a player Oakland wants which could make the price tag more feasible for Roseman. I'd go nuts if Cooper was in Buffalo, immediately sign him to 5ys 55 million, someone Allen can grow with. Shady goes back home.

I'd call up Howie Roseman, I'd say: You guys want Shady? Well we want Amari Cooper. You work out the compensation with Oakland and we'll give you Shady. 3 way trade, we give up no picks.

I wouldn't go any higher than that.