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Khalil Mack or Aaron Donald or OBJ. I perceive that OBJ is not a process player, so he’s out. That leaves me with Donald or Mack. Well, Mack is younger and we have an abundance of DTs, so Mack it is.

Just goes to show you that the whole “culture” thing is not garbage. Talented players mean nothing if you do not have the right people up top. Having LeVeon Bell or Jalen Ramsey means nothing without the right leadership. Mick has done good here, he’s done real good. When he came here the flock was scattered, he rounded up his sheep and has acted as a good shepherd for his players. I feel bad for the Sam Darnolds of the world; good players with no guidance, no amount of talent can overcome having a wolf like Gase or Marrone leading your franchise.

I can’t really argue with it. Until Allen arrives as an elite QB we belong in that 10-12 range.

I think Baker may be prideful and arrogant in many respects and it’s prevented him from growing. Guy had a great rookie season and he may have rested on his laurels a little bit. Another thing is he may have too much on his plate. I mean they traded for OBJ and fans along with the national media are expecting the Greatest Show On Turf. May be a bit too much, too fast. I do think in the end he’ll figure it out, but at this point I’d much rather have Josh Allen under center.

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One day Shurmur might be a good ice cream.

No doubt, no doubt.

This.

Now, now. Remember one thing, my friend. Lamar went to a team where a winning culture was established already. The other QBs went to teams who were not stablished yet. Not saying Lamar is bad but he walked into a golden atmosphere.

Thank you.

What’s wrong coach Sherbet? Did Allen eat your lunch—eh—ice cream?

I am going to cautiously say that you are right. I wouldn’t trade Allen for Mayfield even and he was ranked pretty much unilaterally as everyone’s top QB. Why would I say this? Well because twice yesterday I witnessed Allen sprint full speed to his right and throw two darts on the move, right on the money for 20 yards. The wow factor is off the charts and unbelievable with this guy. I am super biased but from a sheer entertainment value, Allen is one of the most entertaining players in the NFL. The way he plays is just fun. When you sprinkle in Singletary it certainly makes Sundays for us Bills fans enjoyable. Your assessment of Lamar may be accurate, may not be. Personally I’m going to shove my foot in my mouth before I say another bad thing about him. He made his arrival known twice so far this year as a passer. I think I uh done did it when I said he’d be a bust. In closing, Lamar and Baker have both had F U arrival games in their careers. Just an undeniable F U to the league that they are dominant NFL QBs. Allen has had many, many, many plays like that but we’ve yet to see an entire domination over the course of an entire game, so with that said I have to rank him #3 right now (objectively), but it would not shock me even a tiny bit if he turns into the top dog alpha QB of the 2018 class, it’s entirely possible. I wouldn’t trade him for any player in the NFL.

They almost beat Seattle. They may not be a great running team but they got decent passing protection, good receivers and Dalton throwing the ball. He’s 68-52 as a starter. Pride comes before fall, let’s not let our arrogance undo us.

Dalton though.

I’ve always respected Dalton since his days at TCU, the guy is no bull####. Our defense is very young, our nuclei is very young. We should and will win if our defense stands tall.

Allen hasn’t arrived yet. We’ve yet to see him have a 300yd game let alone a 350 or 400 yard one. The Bills are very much a defensive driven team. If our defense gives up points early on against a seasoned Bengals offense, can Allen lead us back? Is he there yet in his development as a player? I stand and by it. If our defense stands strong, we win. If they do not, I think Buffalo loses this one. This will not be an easy game for us, Dalton is a seasoned vet with playoff experience.

I think the underlying threat, in my eyes, is that Cinci offense versus that Bills defense. That could be death for us. This is where the game will be won or lost.

I overlooked the coaching situation that Lamar was walking into. I should have known better that he’d be decent under Harbaugh.

I thought Allen would be great and Lamar would suck so my stupidity evens out.

You wanna know what I think it is? I think they’re simply wearing down the defense with Gore and inserting Singletary in after the D is all worn down.

Ok fair enough, fair enough.

I think as of now it’d look like: 1. Baker 2. Lamar 3. Allen 4. Darnold 5. Rudolph 6. Rosen Obviously I think this has shaped out to be a pretty darn good group of QBs. I think Allen could potentially be the best QB of that class but I never expected Lamar to be so good, what a shocker! I had to put him #2 but he could simply be hot water, who knows?

How would you rate them right now, in hindsight?

I wanted: 1. Baker 2. Allen 3. Darnold 4. Rudolph In that order.

I think Rudolph will be a slightly above average starter.