Maine-iac

Can I suggest we take his teammate with a later pick instead. Roschon Johnson comes in at 6'2" 220 and averaged 5.9 ypc behind Robinson. Perfect change up to all our smaller shiftier guys.

And to your point I'm not advocating check downs as much as quick passes. There are swing passes that give you a rb in space with room to make something happen that (if done right) can be very effective. The video did a good job of showing how a quick release to the flat instead of a chip would have (theoretically) produced some better results not only for a pass to the RB but in moving coverage to hit some WR's at an 8 to 15 yard level. Some in game tweaks that might have worked. I don't want whole sale changes as much as diversification.

KC and the Bengals had roughly 90 to 100 catches by rbs. We had 60 between Singletary and Cook. I've already harped on running the ball more. I've never thought we had an OL problem or RB problem as far as running. We just don't hand the ball off and therefore no rushing production. The more I look the more I feel the same way about the short passing game. I'm not saying abandon a vertical passing attack but (for the sake of not being predictable) mix it up.

I like that Josh and Dorsey like to try to block it up and take shots downfield. We have the receivers and game plan to do that. What I think this video shows is that a couple in game tweaks and a quicker decision to attack underneath would land some big plays from a shorter passing game. Picture Mike Tyson working on his jab.

Josh is fine. He's still a man among men. Even Warner complimented Josh several times on making something happen. Hindsight is always 20/20 so after a game is over and you are looking at tape it's always easier to say what you could have/should have done. Dorsey and Josh are good but I'm sure they'll learn from this.

One of the things I liked is that while he did point out throws that were there Warner also talked about play design. Getting the guy out to the flat so that you can get the ball out hot and catch the defense instead of chipping and giving them time to get coverage there. It just seemed like our answer was always block and then strike instead of a quick strike that never allowed them to get there. You're right. The defense didn't have it but this thread was never about the defense or who lost the game. Just watching a film break down. I'm sure there are 100 threads about the defense. Choose one and let it out.

Lots of interesting stuff here. I don't always agree with everything that comes from Warner but this looks pretty straight forward. The ball needed to come out quicker and the short passing game needs much better execution. Looked like a lot of plays were there. I don't think the Bengal's defense was too much we just didn't execute well. That's just my take.

Bring back Motor at 5.5m and I'm fine. He's truly a team guy, a good rb, and a great blocker. When the give him the ball he produces. That said I voted other because in particular I like the way D'Ernest Johnson runs and as long as he can pick up a blitz we could probably run him with Cook and save a couple million in cap space.

I was clamoring for Steve Johnson to get more playing time long before he blew up. I also thought Zay Jones was going to be our next great reciever ............. can't win them all. Jones may still end up being a decent receiver but he couldn't catch a cold while he was here.

Pretty sure the 4th string guy in Cleveland is a FA. Guy has had some monster games but is buried in the depth chart. D'Ernest Johnson would be a great addition on the cheap. I still love Motor and would love to see him come back. I like Cook a lot but he seems to have the speed but I'm not sure about the wiggle. At the very least I hope they have a complimentary back who can either make a guy miss in a phone booth or run them over (220 plus lbs).

I'd like to get 15 Jerseys for free. Or watch a game in 15 different cities. Say nothing about watching from the field.

It's not rational. I think I used him in Madden franchise mode 15 years ago or something nonsensical like that.

Chase Daniel

I liked me some Jeff Tuel as well .............. guess I'm just a sucker for an underdog. He was the one that got picked and run back by JJ Watt right? Poor bastard ........ he had that game.

I can't argue with it but I want to anyways. I never thought he sucked. Nathan Peterman sucked. Johnson was definitely a back up but I'd he used to really have some wheels and could make a play here or there. I mean if you just look at the numbers I don't know what to say because they do suck but I'm telling you, you could do a lot worse at back up.

Where's the intermediate guy to make teams play a different coverage? Beasley's 80 plus catches was missed. Don't get me wrong I shout run the ball til I'm blue in the face but they just don't care to establish a running game. So if you are going to throw all the time you better have a good short game to go with the long and my guess is we missed Beasley's production. McKenzie never turned into a reliable threat, Crowder was injured, and for whatever Shakir only got looks late in the season.

I'm going to go silver lining here and say a lot of the Eagles pass rushers are guys in there 3rd and 4th years where they went from 6 or 7 sack guys to 10 plus sack guys. Maybe AJ and Rousseau turn into sack monsters to go along with Miller next year.

I'm all for some help on the O-line.

Jones and Clark or Hendrix and Hubbard ........... we need a couple guys playing in our next playoff game that can drop a QB

Sigh .............. exactly.

That's what we paid Miller for ............

If this was a Frazier defense the safety would help them catch it on 3rd and long.

Pretty sure anywhere but Arrowhead if you land on a QB like that it's roughing. I"ve seen far less called.;

Bengals should have been running the ball last series. Bengals doing their best Buffalo impression throwing haymakers all second half. Connecting on a few but making life tough on themselves.

Where does Cook start?