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What's Wrong With The Passing O?
Maine-iac replied to Donuts and Doritos's topic in The Stadium Wall
That is before Allen even bails the pocket. The outside corner headed down field. I guess it's the difference between 3rd and short vs the Chargers ball at mid field. This is as Allen is throwing the ball. The TE is going to get some yards here. Hell if Allen just runs that way the TE blocks and it's probably a first down. -
What's Wrong With The Passing O?
Maine-iac replied to Donuts and Doritos's topic in The Stadium Wall
You are right in that defenses have to play Cook more lately but that's because he had 125 yards and 2 TD's just a couple weeks ago and Cook in the passing game is one of the reasons we won the Chiefs game. You are also right that not having a reliable go to guy hurts. As much as I do think Allen needs to speed up getting the ball out and take the easy stuff more often I'm not oblivious to the fact that guys are dropping a number of those throws. Short throws that move the sticks are definitely less effective if guys aren't catching the short throws. It's been hard to watch. Allen will tattoo the TE and it skips off his hands (still he should catch it). Then Allen throws an easy one to a back for a would be first down and they drop it. Then they call a WR screen and it get's blown up 3 yards behind the line of scrimmage. -
What's Wrong With The Passing O?
Maine-iac replied to Donuts and Doritos's topic in The Stadium Wall
Except your pic is a guy across the field 50 yards down field and the guy I showed was open for far more than 3 yards and again it was 2nd and 7 and we are 7 yards from our own end zone. It is part of the reason we aren't beating up on teams we should be beating up on because we give them short fields turning the ball over when we should be moving the chains. Next two plays Josh misses open guys. Granted he hits Davis on the scramble drill on the second play but it's part of what is making things harder. We don't play on schedule getting the ball out and mistakes are eventually made keeping teams in the game with us. I love that Allen makes the big plays but I would like to see more on schedule, getting the ball out, type throws. -
What's Wrong With The Passing O?
Maine-iac replied to Donuts and Doritos's topic in The Stadium Wall
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What's Wrong With The Passing O?
Maine-iac replied to Donuts and Doritos's topic in The Stadium Wall
If you are watching enough game film to know he moved past a read that came open then you should also know that he's looked right at open receivers and not pulled the trigger. Like I said I haven't seen this weeks All 22 but it's there almost every week. Not saying every play but a lot of plays. -
What's Wrong With The Passing O?
Maine-iac replied to Donuts and Doritos's topic in The Stadium Wall
I answered your question, you quoted it saying I didn't answer your question and then you went on to do exactly what I said you'd do. Not sure what to tell you. If Allen only showed these problems this week against this defense then you'd have something. -
What's Wrong With The Passing O?
Maine-iac replied to Donuts and Doritos's topic in The Stadium Wall
Haven't seen the All 22 on this game but every game to date there are guys open. Usually for 5 or 6 yard gains and sometimes earlier than Allen likes so he holds the ball and the deep guy never gets open and he passes up the short pass ect ect. I'll eat my words if the All 22 shows differently but it's there every week. Someone posted Shakir running wide open for a TD Josh looking the other way. Not saying it doesn't happen but he's missing the guys that are open, guys are dropping passes, and he's not seeing guys that are open more than no on is open. -
What's Wrong With The Passing O?
Maine-iac replied to Donuts and Doritos's topic in The Stadium Wall
I may be wrong but I wasn't so much deflecting as I imagined where you were going with that question. The Pats defense almost always plays pretty well. -
What's Wrong With The Passing O?
Maine-iac replied to Donuts and Doritos's topic in The Stadium Wall
Does the result differ between the Pats or the Chargers? Does it matter how good the defense is because I don't think it's the defense causing most of our problems. -
What's Wrong With The Passing O?
Maine-iac replied to Donuts and Doritos's topic in The Stadium Wall
If we were playing ifs and buts then we could add in drops and we could also imagine that Allen hit his deep throws and didn't throw low and behind on half his throws and then he would have been 25 of 30 for 300 yards 2TD's passing and 2 rushing but it doesn't work like that. WR's need to be better as much as Allen but Allen has the ball in his hands every play. -
What's Wrong With The Passing O?
Maine-iac replied to Donuts and Doritos's topic in The Stadium Wall
If anything thank god for Brady because he is willing to lean on the running game which has been our best offense and probably saved us from more turnovers because I'm not sure throwing it 50 times in the last 4 or 5 games would have produced better results. -
People consistently saying he doesn't have the speed yet there's a boat load of guys much slower (Kupp, Adams, Nacua) catching 100 passes. Shakir has the same size, weight, and 40 time as Diggs. The line is that he has shorter arms for what that's worth. Either way if Davis left in free agency and we somehow don't replace him I'm not against Shakir getting a shot outside.
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What's Wrong With The Passing O?
Maine-iac replied to Donuts and Doritos's topic in The Stadium Wall
Allen has had a hard time finding the open guys (because they have been open)all year. He also holds the ball for the guy 15 yards down the field until the short pass is no longer there and then he gets chased around and sometimes he makes a big play and sometimes he gets sacked. Defenses are all playing for the deeper passes and throwing in blitzes and the short passes are (and have been) there every single game and Josh turns them down over and over again. I for the life of me can't understand why Cook doesn't get more simple swing passes (as an extension of the running game) for the easy and 5 or 6 yards. We start killing people with short passes they will have to adjust their defenses but to this point they adjusted by run blitzing more but ultimately they still play deep coverage because we just don't throw it short consistently. -
The game wrecking CB was Douglas the guy we traded for at the trade deadline. On offense Allen is off, as in not very accurate off. Throw in a few ill advised throws and then the fact that he loses his mind on occasion and looks to lateral the ball with guys hanging all over him. Then throwing deep to a covered TE (double covered actually) on 1st down all ill advised. Luckily our defense was making stops to go along with the turnovers because we've lost or fell behind in games just like this one too many times this year. McDermott seems to have finally the right mix of when to bring pressure and when to cover.
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Why don't we have swing passes and easy short throws to the TE? Why is everything so hard?
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Not how I want to get in but I could see Baltimore's back ups beating the Steelers.
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I'm going to call it half time adjustments, things got a little better in the second half. Allen seemed to start hitting guys a little better in the second half (minus Diggs wide open deep). Why are swing passes to the RB and/or screen passes so hard for this team. We are straight up bad at the short passing game. Almost every throw is 10 yards or deeper. As some would note drops are a thing to go along with Allen missing guys or placing balls in hard to catch places. No one is going to call the passing offense surgical that's for sure.
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Knox had that thing fired at him. Still a drop but it was pretty hot. Allen needs to throw better. Our pass catchers, all of them Diggs included, have been dropping passes for a few weeks now.
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1 drop doesn't make up for all the passes receivers dug off the ground or had to reach behind to catch and that's just the catches. If you can't see Allen has been off all game I'm not sure what you are watching.
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No doubt. Murray was the worst. Hopefully Allen the the pass catchers have it out of their system and can get on track.
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Run game is working fine. Probably better than you'd think against the Pats. Allen can't hit the broad side of a barn and throws the ball into double coverage to a TE on 1st down.
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Accuracy a little off we can survive but the horrible decision making is going to bite us in the butt.
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A double covered TE deep on first down (regardless of the penalty) is just a horrible choice.
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We have been mixing in a lot more man defense lately ...................
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I think the Ravens vs Miami game might weight in on this pretty heavily. Hill comes back and goes off. Lamar goes off. Hell even Mostert if he puts up big yards and a couple more TD's could be talked about. McCaffrey and Purdy will be talked about either way.