Maine-iac

It was 3rd and 13, I'm thinking they guessed pass on that down and played coverage.

Give Peterman a start and if the defense holds them to under 20 and we score over 20 we win. In general a defense that holds teams under 20 ppg and and offense that scores 22 or more per game is a winning combination. If Peterman gets us there then I'm all for it.

I've already answered this and you didn't get it the first ten times ............ I doubt the 11th a light will come on. I'll let it go. I'm not trying to win a medal for explaining team sports.

I'm saying the team needs to be better for him to be successful. If we are actually looking for him to be successful, which I question, then you can't have multiple negative running plays and leave him in 3rd and 13 all the time. You can't start drives with penalties and you have to be able to pick up 3rd and 1 running to keep the drive alive. 3 out of the 5 times we punted in the first half had nothing to do with Taylor. So my answer is that yes we didn't have a great passing attack. What do we need to do better? If you think simply changing the QB will fix that you aren't watching/understanding the game. I've already said this though so people are either only cherry picking things to argue with or don't care to look at the big picture.

More of the same ..........

You've been at this for an hour and got nothing so far ............... like I said I'll even spot you the two throws to KB that were bad. Now name some plays he really "played like trash" on. Stop repeating the same thing and show me you actually know what you are talking about.

I think you are reading what you want and not reading what you don't feel like reading. I've said over and over he didn't play great. He certainly had no help and he needs help. Between you and the other guy I don't know what you expected but out scoring a team that runs for 300 and 6 TD's wasn't on my radar. It has nothing to do with "love for Tyrod". It's more having a reasonable and objective idea of what the team needs to do right for any QB to be successful. Start Peterman next week. I would root for him but if they can't run the ball and leave him in 3rd and long every drive with no pass protection it's going to be one hell of a afternoon.

If we continue to get penalties, negative runs, bad pass protection, and drops you will never see a successful QB here and you will simply replace the name in the title of this same post every couple of years. Everyone here gets that though ............ right? I thought so.

I agree and didn't like that check down. Again it's 3rd and 13 ......... he got Tolbert for 8 why? Because we were in 1st and 20 in the first place. My point, and has been all along, is that everyone needs to play better. That's what I thought.

So you can't do it?

What's the matter ........... should be easy for you. I'll even spot you the first two throws to KB. After that though, tell me which drives did Taylor kill with horrible QB play. Again I watched the game. I guess I missed it ........... but here's your chance. Tell me about it instead of just the token he sucks.

Yes and no. They are looking for these short passes. Setting up short clogging the run, stopping the scrambling and making short passes harder. We actually need to start hitting deeper routes but the line can't block long enough to do that without negative plays like sacks. We aren't creative enough with the screen game to beat it that way either.

Show me. I watched the game. Didn't think he played great but certainly lack of running game and drops hurt. Line can't block and the play calling sucked. Seems like a suck hat trick. I'm not trying to spin it that he played great but you sure as hell can't point at him and say the problems start and end there.

The other drives, 3 out of 5, we ran on 3rd and got stuffed or someone dropped a pass. So it's easy to say he didn't miss a throw.

It's not a strategy ............ look at it. Tipped passes, penalties, negative runs, and drops. Not a whole hell of a lot to work with. Don't confuse this with saying he played a great game. I wish he had squezed in that first throw to KB in the end zone ect but that said people get all crazy when you say it's not all him.

Looked back at the game. First drive we scored. Second drive, penalty and it's 2nd and 14, tipped pass then 3rd and 14. Third drive McCoy runs for -5, Taylor completes a 6 yard pass and then Thompson runs for -5. Fourth drive Taylor runs for 7 on a second and 9 then Thompson drops that beautiful deep throw on 3rd and 2. Next drive Taylor hits a 9 yard pass on 2nd and 10 then Tolbert gets stuffed on 3rd and 1. That's just the first half. Someone tell me where Taylor could have done something different. Mind you I don't think Taylor is "franchise" or something but if you don't have a decent understanding of where things are going wrong it's hard to claim you know how to fix them. At the moment I think Dennison sucks. That's our biggest problem.

McVay with Frazier still as the D coordinator and we'd have essentially the same team but with a creative offense.

Thompson went up and never came down with it. Fact is Taylor or Peterman it doesn't matter. This team was supposed to run the ball and play defense if it wanted to win. If we get more negative runs than positive, can't play defense, and get a flag every offensive first down and defensive 3rd down we are going to have many many games just like this.

Peterman or Taylor I don't care. What concerns me more currently is what the hell happened to our defense? Then with Dennison as our coordinator are we not going to be able to run it well again? We were the best running team in the NFL two years in a row and not by a little. We averaged 50 to 60 yards a game more and 5 points a game more on offense than we are currently. As much as we would like a player to make an improvement for our team we need to stop bringing in coaches that make things worse. McDermott needs to get that defense corrected and I'm not sure Dennison will ever have this offense scoring to where it was.

I wasn't a hater but I thought we'd be alright without him. I may have been horribly wrong as was the front office apparently.

Every televised game we lay a big fat egg .................

No doubt .............. it's ugly. So ugly I don't even know where the hell you start. Peterman made a few plays maybe he'll get the nod. If they don't fix that defense we're screwed.

Screw it start Peterman ........... can we get our defense back also?

Couple nice throws from Peterman ............

Because why? Do you miss the point completely? There are 40 execution problems on almost every play long before Tyrod not carrying the team comes into play. Peterman good or not will not fix that.