Maine-iac

Now if they had Peterman and threw two picks are they still in the game? No turnovers, play defense, and run the ball. Throwing for a million yards is nice but not always necessary.

T.Taylor pass deep right to R.Higgins to PIT 17 for 38 yards (C.Sutton). 1st and 10 at the 17 with 2:00 left.

or not LOL .........

All of this and after the Steelers fumble Cleveland can score to tie it. Turnover free football and a good defense folks.

I forgot he even played on our team. Talk about disappointing. I still wonder if it's our WR's our out OC. Who doesn't miss Woods and Hogan at this point even as middle of the roadish as they were.

I've said it before Jordan Mathews had more catches and yards than KB. He's not special.

Holy crap that's only the end of the 3rd? Seems like an eternity.

So you are saying we should bring back Kaelin Clay? :).

Honestly I thought it might be worse.

It's amazing how much more enjoyable a game is when your team doesn't make you sick to your stomach. Thank you Josh Allen.

Yeah .............. FIRST DOWN!!!!

From a fringe playoff team to utterly embarrassing. What part of the process involves going from a decent team to becoming a complete dumpster fire?

and twice as many rushing yards as our QB has passing yards .......

We were top ten in scoring both years before McDermott (and Dennison). We went from over 23 ppg to 18 ppg last year and god only knows how bad this year.

McDermott making a good case for him never being anything but a DC ever again. He inherited a top ten offense and has systematically run it into the ground with help from the rest of the Bill's organization. All those picks and cap space and we have a "project QB" with a cannon arm and unproven ability to run an NFL offense who after being drafted top ten is not even ready to start. Even if he was the rest our offensive personal is so bad we have to wonder if we wouldn't ruin him just because everything around him is so bad. Then to add to that we brought in an unproven and (when he had the chance) ineffective OC to "coach him up". All the makings of a dumpster fire. Best case scenario we get a bunch more picks to throw into the abyss next year.

Defense was never the same after Dareous was gone. Whether he was playing only 30 percent of the snaps at the time or not, the defense just never has been the same. Oh and the offense we are facing today is the offense we gave up to get what we have now. Just food for thought.

Considering the coaching staffs I'd suspect they are both in trouble. McD's vs Bowles and Daboll vs Bates is like 4 blind men trying to nail jello to a tree. Not one of them has a track record that suggests they can put an offense on the field that can score over 23 ppg. As much as everyone thought drafting that "franchise" QB would mean 300 yard passing games and the next coming of the air coryell I'd honestly be happy to see us be able to line up and run for 140 ypg and score 18 TD's on the ground ala Jacksonville last year.

I think there is little chance he repeats his record breaking performance but how many picks do you think he needs to throw to guarantee that this offense will not be able to overcome the turnovers. I think 2 picks is pretty much a death blow and I could see him doing that frequently. I'm not even a Peterman hater. I just see him as an all or nothing, the ball is coming out and someones going to catch it, type of QB. It's just a matter of who is standing there when the ball gets caught.

I think it would also be fair to say that Daboll has as much proving to do as Peterman.

We were scoring more points with Lynn and Roman just over a season ago. All either Gailey, Roman, or Lynn's teams needed was a defense that could hold teams below 22 ppg. The one thing also to remember is how many games Fitz killed us with a pick in the 4th qtr. As much as everyone lauds the passing game I'd love nothing more than to see Daboll come out and run it down peoples throats like were doing just a couple years ago.

5-11 Same gripe the last couple of years. No pass catching talent. Now we also have OL issues. Last year we were unsure about Mills and had 3 border line pro bowlers or alternates. Now we have Dawkins and 4 scrubs. Groy could be good if he returned to form from the year he replaced Woods due to injury. Don't know who they'll blame now, I suppose the QB again, but the fact is no matter the QB, the talent on offense has declined for 3 straight years and is now pretty bad.

I thought Milano played very well last year. I care about as much about Milano looking off in the preseason as I do about Peterman looking "good" in the preseason. When the season starts is when it matters. Hopefully both look like starters on an NFL team.

I think it goes with out saying they both have to learn decision making. They can both throw but I have serious doubts about the team around any QB in Buffalo. If the O-line can't pass protect and the first time KB comes up lame we have 0 legitimate receivers it's going to be very hard for any QB to learn anything getting pummeled and watching the ball drop off his receivers hands. Nothing I would love more than Zay to develop and Groy and Miller to prove better than expected but even then the talent on offense is so thin we are always one or two injuries away from toothless. I actually think more about the Rosen comparison because ultimately I feel that is where we should have went and still had the extra pick to work on the O-line. I have no problem with Allen. I just question whether this team will be able to develop him.

We? You and the turd in your pocket?

I'm sorry but if we are in the second season of this build and spent all that draft capital on a QB, saying that Peterman is the best QB on this roster is an extremely sad indictment on this franchise. To make matters worse the O-line is worse than last year and it wasn't great in pass protection last year. I can't think of one move they've made to make the offense better than, or even as good as for that matter, before McDemott got here. When we are scoring over 23ppg game again somebody wake me up.