Maine-iac

So maybe if we had Ivory in there we could actually pound it? I guess suggesting that is trolling though.

Yay McCoy for positive yardage.

Was it a bad throw or was Thompson 3 yards past the sticks?

Personal management is horrible. Thompson hasn't been here all year why is he playing in the 4th. Why is McCoy in there? This bad game management will kill us.

WTF is McCoy doing back in there. Grind with Ivory. Bring McCoy in on 3rd and 7. Am I crazy?

Watched his throws at Wyoming on those vids that were posted before the season. It actually seems pretty dead on.

Bring in Ivory for Pete's sake.

Surprised the officials haven't thrown a flag on the officials. The end of the first half it seemed like every single 3rd down had a penalty.

22 penalties between the two teams.

I sincerely hope that if they are serious about doing anything other than year 3 of a rebuild ( like winning for example) they have some much better names in camp than Barley and Allen. Allen may be the future but if they really are serious about winning they will have to have a much better contingency plan next year.

It will just give Josh Reynolds behind him more of a chance to get better. I liked Reynolds as much as Kupp or Zay. He put up 3 catches for 42 yards and 2 TD's last game he played for Kupp. I think he will only get better.

I'll put on the flame suit and say it. We had a QB totally capable of putting up Barkley's numbers vs the Jets. Everyone all but walked him to the door and kicked him out. Admittedly I was all for drafting Allen (or a 1st round worthy QB) to see if we couldn't develop something better. Barkley will at best pull a Fitz ( Bucs version) and play a few good games and then flame out. It is nice, all that said, to see one game with QB play that doesn't flat out lose the game for you. If Barkley has a better grip on this offense and a veteran enough presence maybe he can right the ship a little and give Allen a voice. We can hope.

Reynolds is playing behind Kupp and probably better than KB just know one has heard of him.

We need to develop the offense as much as we need to develop Allen. If Daboll is going to be the OC then the whole team needs to see what his offense is supposed to look like with a competent QB. If Barkley can run the offense the way it's supposed to be run and hit a deep ball here and there, not throw picks, and get them in the right plays for the running game then I'm all for Allen sitting behind him. Maybe give Allen a few more starts at the end of the season. It worked fine for Mahommes. If Barkely just had one good game and can't replicate any of what he did today then Allen gets back in there. Peterman needs to go. Anderson might not be bad to keep around for insurance and given the way the QB situation has gone insurance might not be a bad thing.

Well we managed to find another QB who has thrown 5 picks in a game and start him so there's that.

If you are a great coach and have a great system then spending time in it is a big deal. If you are a coach that has marginal to bad results and a questionable system, then time in that system might not matter so much. The O-line will look like an O-line when we get a coach who can coach offense and a QB who can help them recognize defenses and change plays. The O-line is as much a result of the coaching as the WR's and RB's. Let's face it McCoy has done as well rushing as KB has receiving and no one is saying McCoy sucks. I think when/if we ever bring in a decent coach on offense everything will "magically" get better.

Larry Centers and Riemersma as well. That year the defense was giving up 24 plus points per game. The next season we lost Price, Centers, and Riemersma and dropped to 15 ppg. Two seasons later, still with Bledsoe, we had Moulds and Evans and scored almost 25 ppg and almost made the playoffs if it weren't for Willie Parker. The chart shows it pretty well. The offenses have been pretty up and down and the defenses have been mostly bad. Before 2014 we had only scored more than was scored against us once since 2000.

I definately think you are right. I just think a better running game would help Allen as much as anything and that even with a line that isn't that line can do better. The scheme is definately part of it but I also feel like we did a much better job of getting carries to the RB that was hot. They were not afraid to get Karlos or Gillislee in there. Maybe this offense is every bit the 10 ppg game they are currently scoring but somehow I feel like they could be a lot better. We have 7 games left hopefully they put some things together.

Well and interesting enough I've been thinking about that. What does/did Tyrod do that Allen can't do? Allen seems very capable of running RPO's and getting out of the pocket if need be. I say that not so much because of the passing game but the running game. How come our running game is SO bad. It literally has to be coaching or discipline. Taylor wasn't, as everyone says, a franchise QB. Why can't Allen do what Taylor was doing? Why can't we at the very least run the ball? Again not asking as a knock on Allen. Asking because I think we should be able to do more than 10 points per game and I think it's on coaching and use of personnel. As far as Rex I was always critical of the fact that he didn't get the defense together but I feel like he ran a super complicated defense and with only two years he was somewhat handcuffed with the players he inherited ( Mario and the two safeties). In particular I felt like he never got the back end of his defense sorted. 399 points in a season is top 5 in Bill's history. Top ten in the NFL. That is offense. Try harder.

Truth be told the 2016 Bill's offense scored in the top 5 offenses in team history. Despite all the talk of fixing this position and that I still think it's a matter of getting a good coach on both sides of the ball. Interesting chart that visually shows scoring vs defense for the last 20 years. https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/teams/324/buffalo-bills/#Points per Game$SeasonMax=9999&SeasonMin=1990

There is one point I've been looking and thinking about a lot. Not that I don't think Shady should get his touches but I wouldn't mind seeing them come out with Ivory. Let Ivory fall forward a few times. Let Ivory have more of the 3/4 yards and a cloud of dust carries and let Shady work passing downs and change of pace. All the things Kamara, White, and Cohen are doing in the passing game Shady could probably do and would get him touches. No disrespect to McCoy but he's reminding me of the "bad" Spiller years.

If you take one little piece. The defense. McDermott clearly knows how to coach, manage, and motivate the defense. You are left thinking if he could just do that with the rest of the team. Then you take your eyes off the defense and look at the rest of the team and it is just wilting. I only think Allen breaths a little life into it because he's such a good athlete but unfortunately that isn't going to make him a great QB. Taylor suffered from that. The 49's are a perfect example of middle of the road talent that is well coached on offense. Is it too much to ask that we have competent coaching on both sides of the ball.

It's what we could call a Vontae Davis weekend. No football.

What's Tyrod's record in Cleveland? What's was his record here? Seriously though, they should have had a much better plan for the QB position or just kept him. I'm all for an upgrade or drafting a rookie and bringing him along. Hell ultimately I wish they had jumped in the FA sweepstakes and signed or traded for an Alex Smith or even Keenum and still drafted Allen. What they eventually did do is an example of a bungled offseason and eventually a text book showing of how to ruin a young QB. Hopefully they get Allen some help both on the field and coaching.