Maine-iac

I like Ford/Risner in rd 2. I also like Boykin at WR later on. His size and athleticism would serve Allen well and he's probably not the next reciever getting picked so he might make it another round or two.

Anyone remember the horrible call against Robey when we played the Pats? Maybe a very belated make up call.

One of those two caught a fake kick .............. I think that might have helped people remember them as being better. I swear our defenses were awful for years. Hell even Schobel. We had LB sized DL players and midgets behind them (Coy Wire and London Fletcher ect.) We got run on week in and week out for 3 or 4 seasons.

Kelsay in particular everyone seemed to like but the guy couldn't set the edge, he couldn't pass rush, and they paid him like he was great. Him and Denny both were the picture of mediocre and the stuck around for years.

Mind you I'm answering these all with my own opinion. Take it for what you will. Reed sucked. All the drops of Zay but with less athleticism. Kelsay sucked. I have no idea why they kept him around but our defense was lousy almost the entire time he was here. Parrish was a poor mans Tavon Austin. Byrd played well here and then injuries derailed him. Williams was drafted as a corner and actually played corner and safety at different times. Moved to and took Byrd's spot and looked like he was going to be great unil the injuries. Alonso is a good he got injured and McCoy trade. Darby is good but I think with our current defense there is less focus on man and thus Darby was expendable. Ragland looked (in camp) like a winner but got injured and moved on to KC. Showed flashes last year but the KC defense hasn't exactly been shutting people down this year. Zay got better this year. Did he peak or is he going to continue on and be a decent receiver? The drops are what makes you pull your hair out. Dawkins seems like an absolutely solid pick. He just needs to stay healthy.

Tyrod made the pro bowl two years in a row ...................

I am getting older but I lived through all of those games and like a said two pages ago I remembered Peters being a scrub. Didn't take much research to reafirm what I already thought. Peters is the Super Mario of offensive lineman. When he's "feeling it" he's an all pro and when he's not your QB is in for a long day. I later wrote of Peters, "[He] has emerged as one of the top left tackles in the NFL. Unfortunately, Peters is holding out because he wants to renegotiate his contract. I say pay the man. Peters is in the middle of a 5-year deal worth $15 million. He's one of the best players at his position, and he certainly deserves a lot more than he's currently making." So, should my Pro Bowl voting rights be revoked as well because I considered Peters a top talent? No; not for this reason anyway. Since the 2006 campaign, Peters' play has regressed exponentially. In 2007, Peters gave up six sacks in 15 contests. And last year, things got downright ugly, as Peters surrendered a whopping 11.5 sacks in just 13 games, good for tops in the NFL. Peters was also whistled for eight penalties, a career high for him. Now you see why I hate the Pro Bowl so much. How could the league's worst left tackle, statistically speaking, be voted in as one of the premier players at his position? http://walterfootball.com/jasonpeterstrade.php Peters also seemed to admit that maybe he didn’t give 100 percent on every play last year because he wasn’t happy with his contract. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/04/19/peters-didnt-know-he-gave-up-115-sacks-last-year/

Arians is one of the few coaches who can come in and overnight change your team into a top ten scoring team. Winston should easily have his best year next year.

I'm going to be honest and no one is going to like it but this is how I remember it. Peters was not that great. He flashed. He was a converted TE so he was quick and yet still strong but he gave up a ton of sacks, took plays off, and had a ton of penalties. He had only started for us a couple of years and the year we let him go was his worst for all of that. We had two horrible deals with Dockery and that other scrub from the Raiders so we weren't looking to over spend on another half hearted OL player and Peters wanted out badly. Was he super talented ......... absolutely. He also had a lot of bad plays especially for us. He continued the same problems the next couple of years for the Eagles also which is why I find it funny so many people love him now. Maybe because the Eagles are winning.

All this talk about QB's and all I can think is what the hell happened to the Houston defense? When did JJ Watt become almost a non factor? Luck has had all day to throw.

McNabb, McNair, Rogers, Luck, Vick, Brunell, Cunningham, Smith, Elway, and Young. I'm sure I'm missing several. A QB's success has so much to do with his surroundings. A good OC, defense, and an ability to make throws at clutch times can make all the difference between winners and losers. The pairing of Jackson and the offense in Baltimore works because of the coaching staff in Baltimore. So much of thier staff is built up of proven option and RPO type offensive coaching that working Jackson in is easy. McNair and McNabb are two of the best examples of running QB's who were very successful. They got better in the pocket over time but both were still very capable at breaking the pocket throughtout their careers.

ESPN article said he tried to hold up. Sure as hell doesn't look like it to me. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25647670/kiko-alonso-miami-dolphins-ejected-following-scrum-set-hit-sliding-josh-allen

Buh bye Pittsburgh

I missed the memo ............... and Mahommes did also ?. ps Funnier if you saw the Chiefs last game.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. I don't care enough.

Yup ........... completely what I expected. I'm not going to argue those points with you. It will not make a difference.

To Zay's credit he has improved this year. He went from being horrible all the time to only being horrible half the time. All this from a person (me) who expected him to be like Cooper Kupp or Josh Reynolds. When I saw him in the Senior Bowl I thought he was going to be great. He still might but he needs to learn how to consistently catch the damn ball.

Allen totally reminds me of a less refined Big Ben. Ben used to run more (not as much as Allen) and the team around him was much better. The Steelers defense was better than ours, the running game and O-line was better, and the pass catchers were much much better. Ben was not setting records passing his first few years but he made big throws and big runs and with the team around him was a winner. Allen is always looking downfield. As the game slows down and he learns the art of taking some more easy throws his completion rate will increase and his interceptions should drop. That said he doesn't have to be as efficient as Brees or Peyton to be a great QB. Great QB's are defined by a few plays at key times and not necessarily having 70 percent complete.

I'll preface this by saying I really like Allen but that said this is the same group from last year. Funny how the song has changed from horrible QB to horrible WR's. Granted I thought it was horrible WR's the whole time but fans love to play to a narrative.

I like our QB. I like our OC. There's enough there to like. I like our defensive coaching staff overall. I think some offensive upgrades on the line and pass catchers would help but learning how to win has eluded us for many many years. When the penalties stop. The dropped balls stop. The bad clock management stops. I'll feel a little more comfortable about the idea of learning how to win. Hopefully next year is the start.

We left at least a handful of very good plays on the field with drops, lost balls, or fumbles. Allen also threw a couple of bad picks. Get rid of the picks, make a few more catches, don't fumble and I think we are in this game. Wouldn't hurt to take McCoy off the field and sit him next to Clay. He just can't seem to get positive yardage on most plays.

I have no problem with McCoy per se. It does however amaze me how useless he is in this offense. His running style seems to require big holes and no penetration. He's also much more uselss in the passing game than I thought he would be. I do think Allen has trouble recognize which plays to swing it to the back early on but I still am amazed that McCoy is basically useless. Again I'm not saying McCoy is doing anything differently he just doesn't seem to fit this offense.

There were numerous times that there was a checkdown. Allen is very bad at knowing presnap which plays to swing that ball out quickly and when to stand in the pocket and look down field. That said he is a rookie that will improve every week. He's also making a number of big plays looking downfield. He and Foster just missed a TD this week and there are at least two others they just missed on the last couple of weeks to go with all the others they hit on. Once he gets the feel for that though he'll raise his completion percentage and we'll move the chains a little more often. I can't disagree with this except I have to add that Daboll's scheme is working better each week. Foster is catching TD's and he's very close to catching more. Allen does need to swing it out to the RB a little quicker sometimes but with that said McCoy is worse at catching the ball than I thought he would be and this week in particular the droppsies seemed to come back around for everyone.

3 plays that exemplify todays game. 1) Foster losing the ball in the sun while having 2 or 3 yards on his defender and a very well thrown ball. 2) Couple of plays later an excellent coverage beating play with double crossing routes and Allen hits McKenzie right in the hands. He drops it. 3) Next would be the Croom fumble. We really could have been in or won this game very easily. NE has been letting very average teams hang around and even beat them and today we had our chance and blew it. Hell NE was even taking drive killing penalties on offense just to help us out but we had no intention of stepping up today.