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Well said. All depends on said players specs. I'd imagine each has their own specific plan as to how they are handled and what they are deemed capable of barring any surprises. I know people hold out hope that player xx could turn out to be the next steal of the decade qb wise but if they don't get a guy early and take a '2nd tier' guy who doesn't show a propensity to rise to the top out of camp HOPEFULLY patience is exercised by both them and the coaches as to not ruin him. I have confidence the latter will happen though, which is guess is really all that matters.

Regardless of what the reality and precived reality is - a buffalo slanted/based article shouldn't really carry much weight imo

Excuse me? Seriously? What kind of tool/troll comes on the internet from behind their keyboard and actually has the audacity and nerve to call someone they don't even know a racist? Had you have bothered to read (asking a lot around here I know) you would have taken away that there was no implied racism nor racist ghosts. I know comprehension is hard, but the dig was the lazy comparison between the two. It's easy, it's lazy, and it's in correct. Leave it to some nitwit who can't be bothered to read to start throwing around the race card. Furthermore, before you start gracing us with more of your uninformed observations - get a clue and try and keep up. This is the last time I take the time to bring you up to speed and consider it a favor so you don't post yourself in a corner and all respect is lost for your scolding hot takes. Grow up and talk football

Lol, right? No where did I compare or infer Jackson would just BECAUSE tyrod was previously the Bills qb. A 'bridge' qb however is a very real thing. McGowan seems to get universal praise bc he is so good with the other younger qbs. There will always be coaches, but that's where that line ends...with the white line on the edge of the playing field. My point was that just bc tyrod is also an excellent African American athlete, that doesn't automatically make him the best fit to mentor him. At this point in his career, he's got his own game he needs to worry about. I wouldn't love tyrod showing him the ropes as people seem to suggest would be a good thing, lazily, again because of skill set and skin color.

How about a Tyrod Rosen tandem? Or Taylor Mayfield? Does this only work with excellent African American athletes? Not everyone, but it blows my mind how much traction this tandem has gotten since yesterday's report... or any time anyone has mentioned drafting Jackson previously. Just seems like a lazy steretyping take. Personally, i dont want Jackson. But should he end up here - I'm not sure I want Tyrod being the one to show him the ropes as he hasn't exactly mastered the position at the NFL level..

Agree to disagree I guess. You say the above is drought thinking, but it was never tried once. The year they drafted JP - things would have been different had they have been able to get up the board for Ben. EJs year is just a suck hole for qbs and better forgotten. The other years? Plug and play, giving guys shots who hadn't previously gotten them, giving guys 2nd chances, essentially trying everything besides trying to get up to land a blue chip qb. To me, drought thinking is getting Keenum and being satisfied. I'm sick of guys who might be competent if they are in the right system (obviously this always helps but the great ones aren't as affected by it) or the team around them brings them up a notch. Non drought thinking is striving for excellence and actually doing something about it. Wanting more than just ok. Could a Rosen or Darnold miss? Sure. If they do - well, then put in your retread or backup getting his shot. At least you gave it a shot. There will always be a McCarron you can chase or an Orton or Cassel you can plug. Not always the case with a rookie who could achieve greatness... This Wilson or Cousins stuff... If plucking mid rd guys who rise to excellence were so easy, everyone wld do it and no one wld waste a high pick on a qb. It's the same as your Favre and Brady argument. Sure, there are exceptions, but I'd rather not keep taking flyers hoping the 1 in 1000 happens. Sounds like a lot of loosing football to me..

So why even try? What WOULD be fun is drafting a guy who turns out to Peytonesq. Gotta be in it to win it. The past has been so so and the record has reflected that. Again, I'm not even sure how this is an argument?

It has nothing to do w being too good, and it bears mentioning Glanville didn't want the kid so he only had a year on the pine before supplementing the Magik Man. It's just the exception to the rule, as is Brady. It' s the modern equivlant of the Bills acquiring Kieser and having him turn into Favre. Same for the few people who want a team to keep taking 6th rd qbs in hopes of finding the next Brady. It was lightning in a bottle and it happened once. It may not happen for another 9,999 times. Should we keep trying to hit that 1 in 10,000? I didn't discount what you said, I just think it's more inline with the status quo with past regimes. Swing for the fences, or continue with the Cassels or Kolbs of the world. Ya want to have a shot a at a return to glory? Acquire an elite qb. Since no one is giving their away find the one you like the most and take him. If not, unless everything else lines up for a perfect season we are right where we have been. Unless you think 6-10, -9-7 seasons are fun.. I honestly don't mean to come across as high and mighty or pompous, but why does this even need to be explained? Maybe Mcarron is decent - but his upside prob isn't elite. Stop the nonsense and do everything possible to try to obtain elite! Luckily, from the little we have heard it sounds like McBeane is trying and spinning the wheels is plan B.

Well, Thanks! You LITTERALLY just proved my point. The end game is a moot point due to lack of a crystal ball - but none the less. He's done just enough, hasn't floundered in his limited opportunities and has things on his resume that people can point to, nudge each other and say 'see?? Eh??' Dude could kill it, but aside from Favre the rest of your list isn't exactly awe inspiring and were essentially servicable. Full circle to do you want servicable, or potentially great? Pointing to Favre is (imo) as silly as when people point to Brady and say a late rd pick could crush it. Sure, there are anomalies but WAAYYY more often than not these teams are left w buyers remorse. 2 yrs ago, I wlda loved taking a stab at AJ. Now, I just kinda think if there was something there he would have been snatched away or at least given a shot. Sure, he's now a Buffalo folks hero but ol Red Rocket isn't exactly top 3rd and he still didn't supplant him

The unknown. Nothing more, nothing less. He has displayed competency, which only in the NFL does that equate to big $$. So many guys have proven to be meh, it stands to reason someone wants to take a chance on someone who has yet to be categorized as such as they still have a chance to be better than meh. Seems pretty common and isn't anything new. Same reason Bills paid for RJ, SEA for Flynn, Texans for OZ and so on... at least there is a glimmer of hope opposed to your Ortons, McCowns, Fitzys etc

jim kelly.... sadly, Reich seems busy...

care to elaborate? Furthermore, care to do so with something else besides being qb's in Cali? seems a little lazy and uninformed - but to each their own.

I wonder... If my booger flicking finger just up and fell off one day - could I train one of my other fingers to be as good as a sharp shooter as the current one? Off topic, what would happen if a unicorns horn was replaced with a banana? Hhhmmmmm

So what makes this thought special enough to warrant it's own thread? Again, are there awards given out for new tyrod posts and everyone just wants to take a kick at the can? Everyone gets mad about the TBD portion and the buffalo news articles, but the changes to the stadium wall seem just as frustrating these days. Instead of the generally well thought out posts that used to occur, why do we now have posts that instead of being placed in the corresponding existing threads just end up as new ones? Instead of reading for a sec, people decide to start a topic with the 1st random thought that crosses their mind like it's something no one else has considered from their arm chair and deemed special. You want me to read your opinion, but you can't be bothered to see if it's already being discussed? Sure, I could stop reading it - but that would be a shame bc there really are some excellent takes and well formed opinions. It never used to be that ... now you REALLY have to sift through the crap to find the good stuff. It's as bad as these idiots on YouTube who film themselves giving their opinions on the draft but the 1st thing out of their mouth is 'I haven't watched the tape yet' . Really? You can't be bothered to do the work to form an opinion but yet you expect someone to take the time to watch your or crappy video apparently based on your pre existing non well informed opinions?? It's like everything has turned into the most cliche football convo you hear at the bar from the guy who has hardly watched a game all year but has a grand master plan on a return to glory... Ya.. talking football is fun... And yes, I just hijacked your tyrod thread. Maybe at least something worthwhile will happen in it now

Is there some sort of reward system or something I'm missing for starting threads? I never used to care but as of late I feel like I read this exact same link in one of the other 10 threads it's being discussed yesterday. Today, it has it's own thread with the same arguments that in the end no one will know anyway. I mean I guess whatever floats your boat.. but holy cow!!

I had no issues reading it.... fwiw Even still, I'd hardly take some missed punctuation as a sign that a trade is inimant.. Correctamundo! At this point it's yesterday's news, which, ironically was dated today when it was featured and laughed at in its very own thread yesterday! Not you, but some of these threads and topics... What's in the water around here lately? Season just ended and the new one already can't start soon enough! Smh

I just don't see it or take it as anything different than his letter to the PT. Shady being the best Shady can be and making it known.

That he is working to create a legacy... I'm not sure what's getting lost in translation here. It's not exactly a cryptic tweet/post...

Lol, if it's not relevant a day before - wait a day and it will be...smh Enjoy that 2017 2nd rd pick!!??

I wish there was a 3rd choice of 'normal off season progression' for a team coming off the playoffs. Everything will work itself out regardless of how anyone here feels.. so just sit back, let it happen, and look forward to next season, no?

If we used the same amount of thought that gets put into 'polishing a turd' around here... think of all the real world problems we could solve. World peace and hunger issues come to mind...

Why Not? The correct question is why? I'm no qb expert, and 2 years back I loved the guy. But, as mentioned above... If you can't at least push mr avg, it stands to reason it's bc he is below avg..

OP, are you a former Bills GM?

Lol, now that wouldn't be productive behavior on a message board...

I guess... but for what though? Craziest thing is winning makes it all go away I guess that's what I'll look forward to. For some, even then I suppose there will be something to gripe about lol