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Oh... my.... Thank you for explaining you're afore mentioned sterotypes... but the truth of the matter is I was imploring you to dig a bit deeper. I've read them, I understand them, and in various topics up and down the board each has been broken down and discussed in great detail. Shame on me for being a smartass I suppose as I did ask exactly for your provided break down - but I guess my point was this recap was like level 1 'lets discuss the qb class at the bar' type stuff. That's on me for not being clear I suppose...

Lol, I had read the report before and knew exactly where it was from..... ya didn't get it??

With respect, next year's cap space disagrees with you:)

Lol

Your disturbed that I implied your half sentence stereo types were uninformed and lazy? Man, I'd hate to see you with a real problem!

The candy man can! There's a nice ear worm for ya. Hopefully they all can. Sometimes you hear Rosens ability to do so come into question but I'd hope as future NFL qbs they all can. It seems some might just do it better than others. Palmer didn't seem to have issues. Aikman had it covered in philly. I know these are past players, but maybe this has gone the way of needing to be 6'3+ or have monster hands. It matters, but maybe not as much as it once did. I'd imagine it's ideal to not have to but you'd think and hope as an NFL qb they can. Further, if you become worried about this it becomes a devils advocate. Want a guy who you know their arm can cut it? Great, go w Allen. Oh, not a polished enough passer? Ummm well... and it goes on.

Hhmmmm... It's relavence can be debated, but you understand there's a chart and hes not just making this stuff up right? Replace GM with you and kiper with board and you may soon know the feeling. Also, for an opinion that needs an open mind to be understood or taken seriously you seem to be shooting down others valid arguments and dishing insults like calling people fans of division rivals. Not the best look

This is like you've half paid attention to sterotypes and now want to talk about it...

Polls are trending Someone just playing with their poll. It was bound to happen

I mean.. good grief!!! Hey, to each their own. All in good fun:)

Smh... Parody is real. Unless your from Boston.

Dude, get with the times! Text messages, spread sheets, trends, analytics, crystal balls, all tools at current NFL GMs disposal. This Isn't your dad's group of GMs from the 60s and 70s..

Unless of course that franchise center or cornerback is there who will put the team on his back and single handedly will the team to the playoffs for the next 10-15 years!!

Until the opposite of a mass exodus (whatever that is) occurs next off season when they have all that cap room and Beane can set the team forward for years to come (and hopefully w his qb prospect from this yr)... Then they could buy pretty much anything they want EXCEPT potential FQB (not that they'll treat it that way.. just saying). That's the hole in that line of thinking imo

Seems like a good time to fill holes!

Meh... tyrod clda done that ??

Oh... In that case do you have a blog where I can get even more of this content? This is my feeling as well. I'd be happy w either and can talk myself into being happy whatever the decision should we be lucky enough to choose

This sounds like a set up... Edit** actually on 2nd though... I think this thread needs a poll

Lol, that was a fun read. Nothing like killing a buzz! I'm curious what you had to Google to come up w this gem!! "Who else had their girl stolen by Josh Rosen"? "Josh Rosen kicked my dog"? I'm sure it's pretty easy to find +&- on everyone. Personally, i look it up in my own time

A simple use of the Google machine tells a pretty accurate story. Dude gets paid a ton, is a bit of a reclamation project, and 12 to 21 is HUGE. No funny business, I kinda feel for em. To rationalize that 12 was too high a pick... that must mean they have been through the ringer. That can't be fun. That is some serious abuse

No way, no how, won't believe it, can't believe it. I'd be SHOCKED if they didn't just trade for 12 so they have a shot at Jackson. In other news, it's just been reported that it appears as though the Buffalo Bills will be playing their home portion of their schedule at new era field. I'll be sure to update if this proves to be true!

So a dupe Glenn post.... But with a poll:) Oddly, I'm shocked Bengals fans love this as much as they do. They don't seem to mind the $$, the injury, or oddest of all moving down. In fact, the like it because they were worried about reaching at 12. Man does that seem backwards. Shame they don't have any other higher picks:)

But technically, they have done/tried that approach before and here we are. They could do that any year they want. Lots of $$ to play with going forward. I just feel like what you want (which although i disagree, I respect) can be done any year they want. There will always be a guy who didn't get a shot or who has played spot duty and showed potential. Its not often it's set up to make a big move and draft your guy and not destroy the franchises future. Its not like this is 2013 where 1 or 0 guys have rd 1 grades. This was a hyped class and it seems the precived issues with this year's class is kinda nitpicky. There could be 4 HOF, or there could be zero with this qb class. But many years you could say there are 1 or 2 known potential yellow jackets. Obviously this is getting down the rabbit hole here... But it's becoming the #1 argument now (bc tyrod is gone and next years cap opens up) is that it's an uncertainty and there's no sure thing. That's the draft. The whole idea is to limit the chances of a bust. If they eyed a guy the love where they feel the chances are smaller then give it a whirl! At least it won't be a half assed attempt like jp and ej. Plus, no abbreviated 2 letter 1st name qbs this year.... so we are golden!!;)

But as i've stated in the MANY other threads and I've just gotten sick of typing it - IF there is a guy they LOVE then do it. I'm not talking an EJ take a guy to take a guy, but a guy they believe will change the course of the franchise. The thing is, WE arent GMS, professional scouts, or even football gurus. We can watch film and see what we like and dont like but honestly outside of Luck - there hasnt been a cant miss guy in the last 10 years and who are we to say otherwise? There has however been a much greater hit rate at the top. These guys have a plan and this is their chance to realize it. Trade up, dont trade up, its their job- not ours. There comes a point when people have to realize they root for the team NOT the player. People fall in love with guys and even if they trade up and get their guy some folks will be mad they didnt take the other guy. Personally, I'd rather they stay away from Jackson and would rather Rudolph if it came down to the 2. Im sure some people disagree. BUT if Jackson was the pick? Great. Im pissed for a second and then GO BILLS. Why? Bc what do i know? IM not the GM and its THEIR plan. The fact that there seems to be a plan is a step in the right direction bc if Whaley had a plan it seemed to change course a few times and wasnt very cohesive. I'm all in on a trade up for the afore mentioned reasons. If you hit, you are golden for 10-15 years. The avg QBs that need support from everywhere to break .500 is an old trick and wearing thin. If not for a little luck last year we are staring down another playoff year. When you've tired everything else and you GM makes the comments hes made about the position AND they love a guy - just let them do what they do. Worst that happens is you endure 3 more years of the same old same old and someone else come along to take a kick at the can. Really, by thius point you've got nothing to loose.

it does seem VERY organized and easy to read. All of which has been discussed, but it still amazes me how many are against this now that Tyord has departed. To me, it seems simple. People arguing that they cant give it all away bc of all the holes.... just flip it. Say you stand pat and 'fill holes' Next year when/if you have 90+ mill (when and how holes should be filled IMO) you cant go 'buy' a FQB with all that $$ and are still where we have been for the last umpteen years of trying to build a decent roster w/o/the FQB. I think it even offers a bit of a saftey net if they trade it all away and he busts. To each their own... but for those who argue dont trade up bc of holes..... i wonder if they are familiar w/the cap projections going forward