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You said no way they were trading up. I figured as long as you had the ol' crystal ball dusted off I'd see what the future held!

Ok, so... the Bills have 2 this year. 3 1st rd picks, would include 2 this year and 1 next THUS giving up 2 years of 1st rd picks-theoretically of course. The Skins however, had to use 3 years of 1st round picks as they didn't have 2 in the same year. THUS giving up 3 years of 1st round picks. (2 without) As far as 'some comment' about not waiting for a qb to fall into your lap- my god! If you are going to poke at a comment you disagree with, at least get the comment correct. Don't be lazy and take a holier than thou approach ESPECIALLY when you dont even know what you are talking about. If there is a guy they like - go get him! At all costs! Its essentially a pass to trade up WITHOUT having to sell the farm. Life tip #1 - learn math. Life tip #2 - dont be lazy Life tip #3 - when trying to be a jerk, at least have your facts correct so you dont come out looking like a donkey. You think the most pertinent and sensible thing to do is stand pat. Go figure, you are also a Tyrod fan. I totally understand you are still working through some things there and might be a little ornery - but dont take it out on your fellow fans. The cache that has been collected has been done so in an excellent year for both talent and opportunity. I think the most sensible thing to do is swing for the fence and try and get the guy who can keep us in any game for the next 10 years. Another little piece of advice for your personal interaction skills - if you want to be taken seriously in a situation where neither you nor I can be proven correct and its simply POV -POV - dont be close minded and condescending. It just makes tools out of folks. You obviously arent pulling your point out of thin air, but its MUCH harder to even listen let along take it seriously when you act like that. I've said it before and I'll say it again... guess whos NOT the Bills GM? YOU or I. That means there is at least 1 person in this world smarter than you and go figure.... HE is the person making the decision!!! So, if you can bring the ignorance level down a bit and would like to have a discussion like a normal human being -please, explain how the Bills parting with 2 #1s this year (to get to 2 - a #1 rd pick in return) along with a #1 in 2019 WHICH still allows a semblance of a normal draft in BOTH years is A) selling the farm B) ANYTHING like what the Skins did OTHER than trade 3 rd 1 picks in total. The Sammy trade in the end was a loser - but we essentially have a bonus 1st this year and the Watkins trade didnt put the Bills in the dumpster for years top come...so why couldnt they survive what essentially amounts to next years draft w/o a 1st rounder? EVEN if we went crazy and (just for the sake of discussion) gave up both 1s this year and a 2nd, along with next years 1. That still leaves you with your QB drafted in the 1st, a 2nd, 2 3's and aside from next years 1 - EVERYTHING else is the same. To me, that isnt exactly a franchise killer let alone one for years to come... unless you are making an assumption about the rookie qb and if thats the case there is a saying for that.... Good luck to you...

Hmmm.... then I'm curious, does Trump get a 2nd term? Oh, and when will the sabres get good again?

So... max we are talking no 1st rd guy next year. We'd still have one this year... and then have one again in 2020. The skins gave away 2 yrs out. Totally different senerio. Apples to oranges

Why is it looking less likely? Never heard if him;)

Manuel was all you could come up with there? Kelly was the Bills 2nd 1st rd pick in 83. Then, we wanted to not be left out of the QB party when the Big Ben deal fell through and traded BACK into the 1st and took none other than JP Losman - the best of the rest type deal. 2013 was a poor QB year which figures, bc Buffalo was dead set on taking a qb. Even after a trade back they still got the 1st off the board - your man EJ. So, what he meant was NEVER have the Bills identified a guy at the top in a qlty crop and said 'lets get this guy'. Kelly aside, its been low rd pick projects, bad qb crops, or reaches. Now, they have a VERY unique opportunity. Tons of ammo/draft capital. Tons of talent. Tons of need. Tons of future cap space. Even TONS of fans ok with a building year. Its a perfect storm for them to take their shot on a top talent with a top pick and hope it sets them up for the next 10-15 years. Along with it comes Tons of anticipation:) Trading a TON and missing can be almost as detrimental as going all in on a so-so guy or keep deferring and drafting in a year like 2013 where there was zip EVEN if you picked the best. For these reasons and im sure i missed a few - its a good time to change the Bills QB draft history.... for better or worse... but hopefully better

Yep! We survived no 1st the following year for sammy... We will survive again. I maintain that 19 1st is what separates us from anyone else - the ability to package 3 #1s. Sure we would rather not give it up...BUT...If that's the price and it allows them to get their guy SO BE IT. Get it done

Here here!

i forget which pundit it was - but they said most guys come out of college w at least 2 concussions (reported or not) fwiw

1)McCarron 2)Peterman

While also being pretty trashy. To speak of someone that you don't even REALLY know is pretty ignorant. The reproductive comment is just in poor taste. Sadly a case of internet muscles, and although I don't often agree w the man and tend to find him too self indulgent more than anything- I don't see why this is necessary. Maybe dude got embarassed and hung up on on-air and can't seem to let it go.

Totally agree. It's seemed starting at last years draft a cache of ammo was being collected. Most dont even realize the gravity of the picks singly (myself included and id imagine most pro trade up pov) on their own bc theyve always just been ammo. Based on just the fact we may never have that along with multiple potential big talent (and of course the house that could fit inside next yrs cap) makes it a once in however long opportunity to 'sell the farm' and not actually feel any repercussions (except possibly winning) past next yr if that 1st or 2nd has to be added. I hope the LOVE a guy who isn't the same as the browns bc if there ever was a time... It's now!!

S'all good bud. I just didn't get your frustration over something that can legit be debated. Now if it was in response to something like the Bills taking Rudolph as 12 bc he', an amazing talent and someone has a Foles esq crush on him.. well then that can be argued as uninformed and rightfully so bc it is a very uncommon opinion. I happen to think although unrepresented, there are enough teams high w o long term commitments on the roster combined w enough hype - something like a crazy run could happen. Not that I'm right, but I wouldn't call people uninformed and make fun of the notion. Everyone has an opinion as well as a different level of knowledge. I struggle w that in some people don't pay a ton of attn but still wanna talk football. I guess it' frustrating but I'd encourage it bc that'I how we learn along w reading. Then you have trolls who play coy and seem to like getting a rise out of people. Often sadly i find it difficult to differentiate. I didn't know it was misplaced frustration - and I feel ya there.

It was terribly simple, but dually terribly nonsensical. First and foremost there can totally be movement. Browns take a qb Giants COULD take a qb as most pundits point out or this is a prime trade spot. Qb #2 gone. Jets- qb #3 gone Browns stay, or someone like az, mia, or NO wants to jump the Broncos for a qb. Prime spot to trade as CLE has their #1 qb. 5- very possibly a qb. Is this written in stone? No. Could it go another way? Sure. You just don't know... But to call people out in a manner that infers they are uninformed and then have the next words you type make fun of 4 going in 5 picks is just silly. You know no better than I and vice versa - but to act like you do and the way you worded it, once again, is like declaring an important proclamation and just farting. It's silly! To top it off by acting like you are writing in some advanced linguistics rather than scribbling in crayon and you have yourself a doozie of a post my friend!

Welcome! This process... Is it an energy field created by all living things? Does it surround us, penetrate us, and bind the galaxy together?" Fwiw, Bills players and other Bill team members use and access the PROCESS with the help of midi-chlorians, microscopic organisms inside their cells. Sounds familiar..

Very well said imo

You SERIOUSLY don't see an issue here? Not with disorganization, but the whole pot calling the kettle black meta senerio with this post? I loved coming here. I lurked for 10 years simply nodding my head or laughing at what was excellent content and takes. Posts like THIS are what inspired me to actually start contributing. And it's not even how silly the content is in regard to starting a thread about people complaining about starting threads. It's more the audacity that blinded you to not see how essentially doing the opposite of what you are complaining about has made this no different and will be flamed accordingly. Thinking YOUR take on the subject mattered more than anyone else's rather than just chiming in on a current topic it's already being discussed in hilights what the real issue is here... and that's assuming there even in one in the 1st place. (There is, and in all honesty it prob has a lot to do with different levels of fandom where die hards loose patience with casual fans-and rightfully so at times - but with no self policing it just is what it is so you have to deal or dont) In the end, if it was attention you wanted this will ensure you get it. Any attention is good attention right?

Meanwhile, this is pretty impressive. I caught it perfect where the top 7 threads were ALL Manson Rudolph a minute ago, but sadly my screen shot is too large a file to post and I can't figure out how to condense it. No pic takes away the point.. but it was a thing of beauty

Spot on hahaha. Imitation through paradoy will get lost on some and undoubtedly some one will flame my overzealousness while it goes over their head. Shame on me for trying to entertain myself:)

Oh come now lol?

OMG!!!!! It's happening, it's happening!!!! Wwwaaahhhhoooooooo!!! Cheers boys!!

Thanks! I dont personally dislike Peterman - he just isnt Rosen or Darnold or whoever you like. As i mentioned in another thread I dont engage with who is better than who - bc what do we know? I'll defer to the professionals. My list is darnold/rosen. I go back and forth on a favorite depending on the most recent film ive watched, article ive read, or discussion ive had. They are MY 1's. My 3rd favorite is Allen just bc of what he COULD become. Mayfield feels safe and i'm cool with that. Jackson - no thank you. I just want a prototypical dropback guy like Beane has described. Rudolph- well, if we have to then it is what it is. BUT at the end of the day, as much as a trade to #2 for Allen or staying at 12 and taking Jackson would bug me... I root for the team. As I stated above, these guys have earned their shot. Its the 1st GM in a while that I havent thought "man, its a shame @YoloinOhio isnt our GM" (compliment, not a knock). They have shown competency and I'll be for whatever pick they take AS LONG AS they arent 'settling' or taking the 'best of the rest' bc they couldnt do what needed to be done to get the guy they loved. Taking a guy to take a guy seems like a way that is more likley than not to fail save dumb luck. Just my POV fwiw

I find it kind of Ironic/funny you chose to call people out in the above bold as you did and then follow it by the underlined. It was there you lost me... Its the equivalent of declaring an important proclamation and then just farting. kinda funny though

rep pt to you for making common sense more common. Very well said IMO and also a view to not become a heartbroken fan regardless of the outcome!

I dunno... i think you are going to be very disappointed. Also. "give away all their picks to select someone who is most likely going to end up the next Winston or Marriotta" this tells me you have a fundamental disagreement with the point of this post. Right or wrong, you are down on it before anything is even done. You have your preference and are probably in the minority. I ask that you open your mind a bit to the possibility that its not as dire as you make it. Another 1 and done run to the playoffs is worth sacrificing for the potential to a 10-15 year period in more often than not. I think getting rid of Taylor is a sign the team feels this way too... now its just a matter of how much is too much. most here are good with 2/3 1's (not that fans matter in that regard) and itll be interesting to see what Beane feels is too much. Barring a stick in the mud - sadly my friend, i think you might end up one bummed Bills fan. Conversely, should nothing be done, there might be a lot of bummed Bills fans... but everything happens for a reason so on to the next thing!