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Brian Brohm lol. Kinda funny 3 are former Bill's now

Bring your A game, or dont bother. The fact that I laid points out line by line and you still have a difficult time keeping up leads me to believe you aren't reading, or your own opinions have closed your mind off to the degree you might as well not even bother. For instance, what are you even talking about passing on andrew luck or ray Lewis? How do they enter a conversation in relation to last years draft? In fact, the ONLY personal shot I've ever taken was at you. And honestly, there are so many excellent posts and great fans here I wish my cynicism never had to be expressed. There is however a vast group of fans that post here. Some are super football smart and are kind enough to share their knowledge with us. Others take their time to make sure we are essentially as well informed as we want to be by taking their time to post the lasest news and updates. Some fans aren't as informed and use this as a form to learn and grow their football knowledge. That's totally cool too! Ya gotta start somewhere. My cynicism shines and comes into play when someone like yourself prides themselves in their knowledge and understanding but they aren't quite there yet. Everyone has an opinion and that's great! It's what makes a place like this tick. It's when the opinions turn to closemindness that really gets me. You've said some of the most outlandish things out of anyone on here, which, I maintain is fine. Say what you want. To each their own. You cant call me creepy for reading a post YOU signed YOUR NAME to and remembering it bc of how outlandish it was. You are posting on a message board. Like it or not, you are judged by what you type. Again... just crazy logic. But, when you double down and start with the nonsense and then decide you opinion is the end all be all and cant even keep up with the conversation you initiated? My patience runs out. Honestly, I'm a nice guy... you just rub me the wrong way. Case in point your latest response. Not once did I say or infer they specifically passed on talent. I did however say, they/he had a plan and seems to have executed it quite well. Do you not pay attention to how the circle of life with regimes generally works? Again.. if you want to have a big boy convo (which again, you initiatied) this SHOULDNT need to be explained. You honestly cant see how much better a position this team is in this year bc of the way McD handled last years draft? That he had the foresight to see a strong class and how obtaining an extra pick (and still landing a stud mind you) would set this team of going forward once HIS GM was in place? And against my better judgment bc I'm a nice guy, I'll STILL give you the benefit of the doubt and say EVEN if you still cant see how this situation came to be or think it was a bad plan... the fact that there was a plan and it was adhered to is leaps and bounds above the last regime. These are all things we could have a great conversation about if you weren't still stuck on something about passing on talent?? So if you need to call someone a sad man to deflect the fact that you are in over your head fine. Go spend sometime in the minors and when ya wanna give it another go - I'll be here for ya. Besides, the least I can do is help...

Never cease to amaze. Your latest attempt at humor has sadly shown how little you are working with and why everyone is always trying to catch you up. The facts.... You are a new coach ✔ You know OR have a VERY good idea the person you are working with won't be your GM in the coming weeks ✔ You have a semblance of a plan that won't involve said GM✔ There is what is considered to be a top qb class (maybe even then more than now) coming out the following year ✔ You have a placeholder an who will suffice for a year and has taken a paycut✔ You added a 1st rd pick by trading back✔ Armed with these facts, you are honestly admitting, publicly, that YOU cant see why it might have been a good idea to kick the can? Get your gm, get some ammo, get a plan AND THEN make what could potentially be a job altering decision? I gotta tell ya - you've had some pretty bonkers takes but I've always at least respected I could see where you were coming from. IF you HONESTLY cant see the reasoning and thought process behind this I am legit worried as for the amount of posts you have here, there shouldn't be this big of a learning curve. This isnt even opinion based... I mean, it just is what it is. My wife gets it and has conversations at this level. I'm hoping you've grossly misunderstood something bc this is just basics man. Basics!! I want even trying to dog you before, but after a response like that... I dont even know man...

This is what happens to a thread when math becomes a prominent focal point. If this keeps up guys, I'm gonna have to bust out the abacus

I'm not in love w allen... but mcbeane isnt stupid. They have to be well aware of the situation you laid out. Knowing that, if he really is their target (and let's face it you can pay attention to EVERYTHING or NOTHING and odds are you wouldn't have a better grip either way of who their guy is) and he is their choice... well, that... THAT gets me excited. You dont do everything you just mentioned to fail or be a wishy washy with it. They will have have big and well thought out plans, which means who ever they choose (if given the chance) has big potential. Granted they haven't had as long... but this isnt whaley/rex, nix, Brandon bumbling. I feel like in a perfect world if they get their guy- we can hope for these big things bc they seem to know what they are doing. I'm not usually Mr optimistic but compared to who has been through here the last 10+yrs - I feel like these are the guys best suited for a play/move this big and I'm glad NOW is when the pieces came together

The above poster was also working as Allen being the 'worst' is a given. The article on page one about scouting things that are givens was an interesting spin and one that makes sense. I dont understand why some insist on pretending Allen is being propped up and the hype is smoke and mirrors. Now I'm personally not a Jackson fan, but that's due to the style of play. The Bill's recently jettisoned a similar skill set so it would seem redundant to then opt for the upgraded version. That said, I respect Jackson as a prospect and although I dont want him to be Bills property, I get the infatuation and if that's the road they want to take then so be it. With everything up in the air it's almost foolish to develop a bias bordering on hate or absolutes (bust) at this point bc any of them could be the future... not to mention we aren't GMs or in control of the Bill's assets/decisions

Can't argue w that! Whaley was on the t biscuit train... I think its smart on McD and maybe even to a lesser degree Doug in that it was known a new gm will be coming with his vision. Why saddle a new gm with someone elses choice? It's not like whaley was a qb whisperer and couldn't miss. Having the foresight to realize a new gm might like to pick his guy, the best thing to do was defer, gain ammo, and give him the best shot to do something w ot in a qb rich class. I'd think 99/100 times (exception passing on a cant miss stud) that's the smart thing to do.

Why not 2 senerios in 1 thread? Both involve the Bills being shut out of QBs... but I digress. Regardless, why bother with convoluted what if senerios? What will be will be and from there we roll with it. I hope like hell they get up if that's the desire, but fretting does no good. So we wait..

please dont pretty please with a cherry on top

Just fwiw... I do agree mahomes Watson and Allen are similar in ways BUT it could have plenty to do with the kid as well. Maybe his skill set/personality is idea for them etc.

Did the wind break this board today?

Aaannndddd that seems to have gone right over your head lol. There's just an etiquette that doesn't include ignorance that would be helpful to a thread of this nature if you want to play host. Asking people to participate rather than make fun of would go better for you if you nurtured the discussion rather than acting like you have an answer key to the dumbest test ever. As someone who seems to almost trying to build a name for themselves via content based on your style of posts here, youd think you wld get this. I wld call this thread many things. POLORIZING is not one of em.

Lol. How do you author a thread, encourage people to talk about a topic that is neither here nor there (which personally I think is kinda silly but to each their own by all means) and then totally shoot down and dismiss someone elses opinion and matter of factly state you are correct?!?! If you choose to play host of the thread that's up to you, but to ask for opinions and then just shoot em down and bluntly dismiss them isn't a good look. If u wanna start these threads, dont be that guy on top of it. ESPECIALLY when there is no right answer!!! And, to avoid the I didnt give my opinion retort - Flutie captivated Buffalo in a way only OJ has done and that was more national and for the wrong reasons. The fact that all these years later people still disagree with the decision in that titans game lends credence to this argument. Whaley has the sammy trade and now a days - who cares? +1 for Flutie.

Hmm, ok, I'll play. I'll speculate that as 2nd year players they add another year of experience that they can draw on to help get to know the ropes. After they play this year they will have compiled 2 years of playing experience. This will be helpful for the upcoming 3rd year. I'm sorry you are disappointed no one cares about your thread, but you have 2 things working against you. 1) there is no right answer. You said so in your 1st sentence the jury is still out.... so what are we really doing here? Speculation on speculatives? 2) this years draft has QBs the Bill's might actually take and is a month away. Incase you haven't noticed - that's where people are currently using their speculating skills. What's done is done, but what will be? And a QB?? THATS where at! Maybe start a thread about predicting where you will be or what you will be doing when you find out the Bill's traded up? Everyone is here and Twitter all the time... but ya gotta sleep and take care of the day to day. Will your wife wake you up after you have dozed off to tell you the news? Will you stumble into the bathroom at 4am and see the news on your phone? Will you be at some event and word starts spreading? Will you be at a parent teacher conference and feel ur phone blowing up in your pocket? I think we pay sssooo much attn, but if it happens it'll be when it's not expected and the ol mind is on something else.

This gets negative FONZ points. Aaayyyyyy You hit the key notes here though! Long story short you want him to use common sense, and only use it when the most sensible time to use it occurs. And, only if it aligns with what you deem to be the correct decision. Right, got it. SPOT ON!

Agreed, maybe just another aspect to complicate things - maybe even perceived interest screws with the Bills.

Yikes to that photoshop. They could have at least included the TV shoulder #s ?

****Total fanboy nonsense disclaimer****Even though Beane doesn't seem like a reactor and does things on his schedule..and even though the Pat's qb move up is prob nonsense... I hope this move makes Beane act out of character and is the kick in the pants he needs to pull the trigger (if there is a trigger to be pulled). I'd much rather the speculation be are the Pat's making a move for OBJ to drain their cap rather than perceived or real competition (and THEY really would need to sell the farm) at the qb spot. Boy, I hope I dont see a day where the Pats win a trade up race bc with the ammo add going to the Bills... that would be an ouchie fo sho

I can't remember who starts what thread anymore but if is the same OP shame on me for even clicking this one..

It depends.... Is it 2018 Season Prime? I'm not sure, if so. Now, if we are talking a few dimensions over but still relatively close to 18 Prime, like 2018( III ) for example - I wouldn't mind shaking things up a little bit and giving this trade a whirl. As long as nothing HUGE happens and as a result it has a ripple that somehow effects Prime 2018 negatively. For those not following.. Have you ever thought of yourself as a pebble? Metaphorically speaking, on the “pond of life” is exactly what you are when you consider those who could be affected by the ripple effect of this trade, games, and actions. You might even be a “rock” turning ripples into waves. Just consider the lives you touch during the span of a day, a year, or a lifetime, perhaps without ever realizing it. If we are all separated by only “six degrees” or less, maybe it’s the Universe’s way of helping us realize our oneness—our interconnectedness—and the “ripple effect” is the connective tissue that ties us together. So - if Odell balls out for the PATS over on 2018 (III) and I dont need to be concerned over here - great. If some how it comes into play via the ripple and the Bills in 2018 Prime lose because of it? No thanks!!!!!

Agreed I will NEVER EVER EVER subscribe to OPs thought process here. It just will never happen, and even knowing the FQB could bust and it could be a waste, 10/10 times I hope they do ANYTHING possible to get that guy. Thats as FAR opposite as OP and I can get. That said, its his view. Its thought out and explained and isnt like the people who crawl out from under a rock, listen to 1 draft show, state the obvious and dub themselves an expert. Anything in the vein of the former cant be considered stupid.... just and opinion. Its OK to disagree. Sometimes we seem to forget that.

WHICH.... brings up full circle to my original comment of BOY do I have a couple investment opportunities for you!! Hahahaha;)

Ya.. I suppose... worse case we get some good trade bait. But i was literally just talking about his wife. As in sure, we'd all like one - but this is reality and just not everyone can have some. As in Mayfield at 12 would be nice..... bbbbuuuuuuuttttttt

Indeed. I wonder if that puts a damper on him being mr fill in though. He has obviously risen through the ranks as it is and this would be a nice fit as he is already the beat guy. I can't picture his equivalent -Hamilton- on the instigators though...yeesh

Gotcha... and I just meant sure, Mayfield at 12 wld be nice but so is Mrs McCarron am I right?!