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Except its not... You'll have to excuse the clown speaking in absolutes about something he has no inside knowledge on nor is he a professional scout. I'm all for hearing your opinion, but discussing it that way just makes said opinion go right out the window...

Tyrod fan were ya?

You have watched the last 20 yrs, correct? And you cant believe people are for trading up? That's even sillier than saying they need to stay at 12!

It blows me away people still feel this way...

I'll sleep better tonight knowing you feel this way! I just knew there was something missing from the other 10000 draft threads, but couldn't put my finger on what....

Ummm....

'It' gets ruined when you try and define it. It just...is. That's what makes 'it' so special! Lol

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I didnt see much mention on browns boards. Is this essentially the ' Cleveland version'?

Sadly, this wont stop the trade for foles crew...

Lol, well, I've come to think all allbright is a bit of a fool over the last few mo and I certainly never thought I'd agree w him... but this is spot on!

Lol

Out of context, you are right. But if the situation creates a bidding war and depending on the player, 5 might as well be 2. It would take a perfect storm but it all depends Or... maybe they are after 2 but want to make it look like 5 is a ok with them to put the heat on ny;) I guess ya never can tell

What makes me laugh in this thread is the folks who come on and post a rumor that they view as new and hot.... and it was discussed 3 pages ago!

Huh ..... well damn

Right? And the dolphins had it so right for so long too. (Although I hate em, for the dolphins- it worked) Jags, meh.. All this flip flopping has cost them their identity.

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Lol, what a tool! I kid, I kid... me too;)

I feel similar reading the gang green. There is a thread about is anyone worried about the Bill's jumping to #2 and giving the Jets one less option and getting a higher crack at a pick opposed to leftovers. It's full of responses like if they wanna ruin their future and overpay them they are dumb and f the Bills. If I was a jets fan - I'd say hell ya that bothers me. I want to have the pick of the litter etc unless we love a guy they wont take anyway. They kinda hedge their bets in the Jets are smart bc they wanted the 3rd best guy all along so it wont matter... Whatever ya gotta tell yourself I guess, but its natural to try and be tough guy, laugh and say it's ok but deep down you know you are just trying to rationalize it. They/we play things down we know we cant have and say we didnt want them anyway... but it's kinda obvious. ESPECIALLY when they paid what they paid. It wasn't a cheap move. To do that and then still have 1 less whack after moving 3 spots seems pretty hypocritical. I guess it's why it didnt bother me when they went to 3 bc I was worried about that move and then having someone slot in at 2. If darnold ends up being there at 3 and we couldn't trade up? Heck ya I'd be jealous!! Hopefully that isnt the case though. Point being, I wonder how many people who dont want darnold say that bc he cant be had. I guess the only way wed find out if they landed him!

100% agree. Hate comes with establishment though. Which, poses an excellent question of what it is prior to establishment. I'll straight up say, I dont have one. I dont know. I was one of the people very high on Christian Hackenburg for example. I was hoping and thought he might have a bit of Manning's mind and being cerebral was a big part of it. I figured the rest could be learned, but that ability to be a field general at the line could be something that puts a guy over the hump. Man.. I was wrong. So I dont know anymore. Now I guess I just watch as much as I can find on them and try to judge based on NFL throws and who seems to be good at what the pro game would be like. That's also very tough because you can dominate at the college level and those NFL traits might not be able to be judged bc the opportunity never presents itself. From there I think guys kinda remind me of pros. I could be dead wrong and prob am - but I see a lot of Rodgers and Ryan in Rosen... which is why I want him so bad. Watching Darnold is totally different but as people have said - he has a little Favre to him... but it's all not on display yet. Oddly, there are no stats involved... but I'm also done pretending I know a damn thing about how these guys turn out. I just know what I like and what I dont and keep an open mind.

Fo reals?

Gotcha, ya I heard the interview but still took it as speculation. I didnt know if there was another report that solidified it

Speculation! So how did this seem to turn to an absolute? Grrr

Umm... sure! Now, back to the rumor thread!! Lol

I'm in the do anything for a qb camp, and 3 1's for #2 is something I'd do.... but for #4? When at least 2 QBs are already gone? Yuck! Esp when rumors for 5 have much less trading hands. Seems like a CLE fan greatly overvaluing #4 as we all tend to do at times... I suppose this enters the is your guy there territory and will you be jumped otherwise catagory. Ie, I do 3 ones for #2 if Rosen is there. If the player is the same at #4 and it's that or nothing, in THAT senerio - then so be it. I can make an argument for the player value staying the same if the pick value is different. Only way I can justify that though..