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Sssoooo.... your just going to throw up a bunch of stats to try and prove how much you know, then back track, then say you arent even going to discuss it? None of which actually is a response to the higher overarching point that throwing $$ at names is a crummy solution that is one if not the main root of this franchises issues since 1996 of FA as we know it came to exist.... all i can say is im glad (for better or worse) we have someone willing to formulate a plan and stick to it and your line of thinking is a way of the past. Again, signings were savvy, well executed, and on point. Like it or not, there is a reason the Bills chose NOT to offer what the Browns did. Sure they could have beat it or offered similar, but for what? If it was part of the plan it would have happened. Its not, so it didnt. If you dont like this line of thinking you will be in for a rough few years. Apparently lodgic is lost when star struck by 'names'

Ya, but he prob has never head of any of them sssooooooo.... we get treated to this??

HAD to be 'that' guy eh John?!?

My dear boy, i think you seem to have greatly missed the boat on how things seem to be done around here - the plan that appears to be in place- and the overall picture as to how this team is being shaped under the current regime. If its big names you want, maybe OAK needs another 'fan' bc until the winning starts, you will be gravely dissapointed. These signings are appropriate and on point. Do you know something our GM and most NFL pundits dont? Its been proven time and time again that names dont = wins. This team spent 2 years digging themselves out of a hole that a GM who was worried about his job and just threw $ at names made...and YOU are calling other people insane?!? yikes

He is the qb afterall

Everything!!

You can post these man! No need to back door it like ur ashamed!

I say anyone who has paid attention, even in the least, remembers. Wlda made for a nice comment in ANY of the WR threads and you would have gotten the same responses. But hey, if its attention you want - well there ya go

'Jesus H, Beane' were your exact words... And again...some dude throwing it out there seems like a silly reason to get on someone we have no idea what he has or hasnt done. Be annoyed at the piece - not the gm

Lol.. 8 pages on nothing sustained, just a dudes 'predictions' and BB catches crap. C'mon

Lol, i wlda guessed posting from a flip phone:)

Man... now i gotta post the rest of it too?!? On March, 2, 2007, Plummer faxed a letter to the NFL office stating his intention to retire. The next day, the Broncos traded his contractual rights to the Bucs in exchange for a fourth-round selection in the 2008 draft if he played, or a seventh-rounder if he didn’t. Plummer indeed retired, and the Broncos used the seventh-round draft choice they acquired from Tampa Bay to select fullback Peyton Hillis. The Bucs, in return, are expected to get $3.5 million of Plummer’s signing bonus for a seventh-round pick Conditions conditions conditions... i guess i just kinda thought it was assumed as it was mentioned and the money stuff w the bonuses is the interesting part.

Man.. sometimes being a genius and knowing how to use google/wikipedia is a curse.... On March 3, 2007, Plummer was traded to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for a 2008 conditional draft pick. However, rumors began to surface that Plummer was going to choose retirement over competition with the Buccaneers' four other quarterbacks on the roster (Bruce Gradkowski, Tim Rattay, Jeff Garcia, and Luke McCown).[14] On March 9, Plummer ended the speculation by announcing his decision to retire.[2]Plummer also confirmed his retirement through the Jake Plummer Foundation's website.[15] Since he was still under contract to the Buccaneers and had already been given his contract signing bonus, Tampa Bay coach Jon Gruden met with Plummer in July to try to convince him to reconsider and report for training camp.[2][16] However, the attempt was unsuccessful and the team sued for recovery of the bonus. A settlement was finally reached on June 10, 2008 in which Plummer was required to pay back $3.5 million to the Buccaneers.[17]

2 cereal jokes in a row? Come on man, you can do better regardless of your handle!

At this point id say odds are on you! Personally, i dont care if you discuss or you dont - i wasnt the one making the demand. Fwiw, 'if' is litterally how most speculation starts, which prompted my response....so im not exactly arguing w/ya there. You decided to stick up for OP and although many posts habe the same vibe, you chose mine to police. Im not sure what you are looking for here other than to further slog the silliness

Whatever floats ur boat my man...whatever floats ur boat.. Yes... it 100% needed to be crapped on. Thats facebook stuff, as is this fwiw. Just bc i spent more time doing it doesnt take away from the first few responses that have the same point w less words. Who says hed be ok w a backup role at a decent price anyway? Now we are speculating on a nonstarter? Yeesh

Incase the youngins have never seen it, its not on the PS store and can only be purchased on vudu. I still have the dvd, but last time i gave it a watch it was on YouTube. Entire movie is there in good qlty stream for fffrrrreeeeeeees That said, best thing going for it is ol'Van. No murph though. Decent cut shots of actual Bills in stock video doubling for 'backups'. The dialogue is cringeworthy, the qb throws like a girl and all the actors look terrible in pads. Couple nice Adamsmark shout outs as well! That said, its fun to remeber a time when it was actly believed guys would come to buffalo at a discount to win:) Side note, kinda weak they gave Washington Reeds number. Thurman was featured in the opening too while Bruce made a play on Huard in the Mia game lol

Im not sure. I dont think so... the Bills seemed to always have long tenures w/their jersey manufacturers. The 60s and early 70s were champion. Then mid 70s to 87 were sand knit before going back to champion from 87-96 (a few players wore apex in 93 for some reason) and after they went from Wilson, to Logo Athletic which was then bought by puma (second string looks like puma) before 1 year of the 90s style with reebok in 2001 when they had a league wide deal that then went into the 02 revamp. It was either just something that no one changed OR that by then all uniforms (still to this day) are made in Berlin WI. Ripon Athletic makes the jerseys and puts the manufacturers logo on it. Its why some mid 90s jerseys were recycled and have the Puma logo (for example) as a patch that actually covers a Starter logo that you can see from the inside out. The make was the same but the logos changed.

No idea why, but it always bugged me they didnt get the uniforms correct. Bills were actually the last team to wear screened numbers in the NFL - all the way until the Bledose era duds. Movie had sewn numbers which, back then, were more expensive than screening:)

If ur going to ask people discuss, you could at least set the table a little better and provide some context. This is just lazy fandom. Its not face book and as others have brought you up to speed, explaining why YOU think this would be a good idea would have been the only redeeming qlty. Why should someone discuss something almost seemingly to amuse you?

Interestingly Pats fans take away is good for the old man, but he should have been more careful. No big deal as long as no one got hurt - worst that happens is jonathan kraft takes over sooner than later.

Sure, lets rehash this again - why not? FA and Combine cant come soon enough!

Among other things, sure. Which, is why when people say he should be a coach its like... uh, hes a player and still has value as such. You have forever to coach, but a relatively small window to be a player. Its no accident things are how they are Same here. Hell, the kid could have come here w no weapons and be an int machine and we wld be discussing if we should be drafting another qb already. My coping mechanism with allen after the draft was that i really wanted mahomes the yr before. I figured if i wanted the rocket arm developmental player last year i shouldnt be upset with this years version. Its silly, but after yelling for a day it wasnt rosen... that thought really helped me come around

I get it BUT you are a player OR a coach. Officially of course. The days if having player-coach designations have long passed. At this point, DA still fancies himself a player. The team gets the benefits of having a 'player' at this stage in his career. I get why people say this, but its easier said than done and not really how things work. In response to the OP, sure - AT THIS MOMENT this may be true. That said, this is the NFL and things change in an instant. At one point last offseason our qb room looked good. A promising rookie, a vet who many thought just needed a chance to prove himself at a nice price, and NP, who was entering his 2nd yr looking to make strides. Im happy with how the room looks now but all it takes is a freak camp mishap for the starter, subsequently a journey man getting exposed for what he is and then all of a sudden everyone is back up in arms that they were unprepared bc DA is all thats here. So, RIGHT NOW everything is rainbows and sunshine but things can change quick so dont rest on what a great job was done 'building' the room.

I was going to ask if you were new... but seeing you actually are takes away both the humor and satisfaction Id still do that in that time and place.