Rock-A-Bye Beasley
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Holmes Davis and Ducasse are replacement level players
Oh wait, never mind I didn't see that it was for a STUPID 3rd round pick.
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Y'all really can't imagine available free agents better than Davis Ducasse and Tolbert? or even comparable? Listen, I don't think the 3rd rounder matters that much, but stop blindly supporting everything the Bills do and realize it's just bad asset management. I read all pre-draft about how important all our precious draft picks are to build a team for the future, but now it's only a 3rd and not worth giving up these terrible players. It's the lack of logic that bothers me.
Also, cutting Tolbert alone would have helped the team immensely.
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25 minutes ago, artmalibu said:
No argument on Tolbert the coaches saw something in him that was invisible to us.
Dont know who duckass is
DiMarco 2 time pro-bowl played who was rated as the best FB in the NFL who would carry a much bigger dead cap hit than cap savings.
Davis who was much needed in rotation at the end of the season when Shaq went down. He also finished the season with 1 less sack than the team leader.
Maybe tanking for a 3rd round pick in more important than ending the playoff drought???
We could have still squeaked into the playoffs and kicked a field goal without those players by signing replacements who are just as good.
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26 minutes ago, artmalibu said:
Share your thinking...
What bills players should the Bills cut or let walk and what free agents did they signed that should not have to get theses picks?
Also tell us how the Pats and Eagles will be better with the players they lost with the picks they gained.
Could have cut Tolbert, Duckass, and DiMarco or (Davis?). Not sure about the last one, but would have had a 3rd apparently.
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then we can move Benjamin to TE because his overall goes up to 96 in madden.
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Best case for me is Rosen falling. Bills trying to trade up but no one will bite and he falls to 12. I know that won’t happen so realistic best case is Rosen at 4-6
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9 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said:
I respect those who think that but if the Bills traded one of our better OL and a draft pick just to move up to 12 to sit there and let all the teams that need a QB take 1 in front of us then this franchise hasn't changed one bit from the 17 year drought. I'm sick of hoping for miracle Andy Dalton last play of the game TD, how about this team get a viable QB who can sling it all over the field and get us to the playoffs consistently with a chance of a SB? I couldn't care less about anything else at this point, take care of that position and the pieces will start to fill in.
I don't. I've never had less respect for any position from other Bills fans than not wanting to trade up this year.
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18 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:
If I'm not mistaken his contract clause is that it voids if he is on the Eagles roster. I don't believe it voids if he is traded, not 100% sure tho.
I heard something about this after I posted. Then I checked spotrac and yes that's true. If he's traded he's under contract for 3 more seasons at 6.1 million. So that part of my argument is void. However, I would still rather get a rookie.
So this mock isn't quite as bad as i originally thought for the Bills. Still think Eagles want to keep Foles for this season at least. They can trade him after the season.
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30 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I hate to be the guy in the “it depends” crowd but the price matters to me. My ideal scenario at this point is 6 or 7 and still getting Rosen.
That would be ideal, but you won't know if he or anyone for that matter will drop until after you pass on trading to #2. Are you willing to take that risk?
I was scared of the cost at first then I thought about the Texans. Are they kicking themselves for trading up and giving up what turned into #4 this year? I doubt it.
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7 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said:
Teams that turn the ball over are likely to lose though. And few would dispute that if you look at the history of the NFL. QB's who turn the ball over are alot are frequently benched, as well, so they don't get the chance to rack up numbers that a QB with lots of years and passing attempts will have. The stat may not mattet much over a career, or season, but over the course of a game its hard(if not impossible) to insist that it doesn't.
Not arguing any of that. I agree, I just laid out a very specific scenario i noticed the Bills in last season where Tyrod and/or the coaching staff were afraid to turn the ball over even when doing so wouldn't have hurt the team's chances any more than punting.
another example would be an end of half or game hail mary that's intercepted. If I was looking at a players stats and saw he threw 15 ints but then dug deeper and learned that more than half were end of half hail marys I would be less concerned.
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23 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:
Foles > Jackson, Rudolph, White, Falk, Lauletta
It is very very real that the top 4 are gone before we get the chance to trade up. Of course it's possible one falls, this is just an alternate mock/contingency plan in case we are on the outside looking in.
I understand that, but I'd rather take a chance on the upside of Jackson than get Foles.
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4 minutes ago, SteveFreeman22 said:
I don't even know what this means ?
Really? did you miss the trade in his mock where we would be getting Nick Foles? or is it more of a reading comprehension problem? If we trade for Foles we would have to extend his contract next offseason. I believe there's an opt out clause after this year as well. So we would be paying a large portion of our cap as early as next year to a guy whose play has been up and down during his career to say the least.
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2 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:
And what do you do when the top 4 QBs are gone in the top 5 and we can't trade up?
I would probably get Lamar Jackson. Depending on who else is available and what trade down options are.
1 minute ago, NewDayBills said:I think I picked 5 players that would be starters, not one prospect I listed is a bad player, you have no clue what you're talking about.
I actually don't mind the other players, just don't want Foles.
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Yes, this idea of yours? It is very bad. I don't feel like paying Nick Foles (minus Eagles coaches) a bunch of money next season.
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2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
I don't know about overrated, but I think "low interceptions" by themselves aren't very meaningful. It needs to be looked at in context of how many YPA a guy gets and how many TD he throws. A guy could throw 16 INTs a season and if he's also throwing >32 TD, it's probably OK. If he throws low INT, but also low YPA, it could be he just takes the safe checkdown throw all the time. If he throws 16 INT but only 23 TD (Bortles 2016) or 15 TD (Osweiler 2016), That's Bad.
I agree. I guess by overrated I was referring to the national media overrating Tyrod for not throwing ints. Also, the situation I mentioned where the int doesn't actually hurt the team at all. If a QB throws a pick on 3rd and 15 from the 50 yard line trying for the end zone and the other team gets the ball at the 10 it shows up the same as a pick on 1st and 10 from your own 20 on the stat sheet. I'm guessing some QBs have a tendency to throw "better" interceptions but i haven't looked into it.
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I like yards as an option but I think I'm biased because we haven't even had a 300 yard game in a while. I could start with yards then dig deeper.
I also think interceptions are overrated as a negative metric. This became so obvious to me last year when we would have 2nd or 3rd and long from midfield, but Tyrod would just throw it to Tolbert for a few yards. In that case taking a shot downfield and throwing a pick inside the opponents 20 is equivalent to a good punt.
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5 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:
http://www.billsdaily.com/draft/2004/
Would you have traded Lee Evans, JP, Tim Anderson, Tim Euhus, Dylan McFarland and Johnathon Smith for Big Ben?
I would have
The trade down crowd needs to look back at past draft's 2nd and 3rd rounds to see that drafting a difference maker is possible but rare. I say that knowing the same is true for QB position, but it's worth the risk because the reward is so great, especially now with the rookie wage scale.
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10 minutes ago, jahbonas said:
And because (as you point out) they are not guarantees you mitigate that risk by having more of them - not less.
No team in the last 15yrs has traded down more often than the Patriots - they ignore the media myths of 'superstars' and know in the era of salary cap its about getting as many quality players on cheap (rookie deals) contracts as possible... that means multiple 2nd and 3rds over a single 1
Hopefully we can do that once we have our QB. Look at the Colts this year. They're set to move down again, do you think they would have considered it if they didn't have Luck?
Not only is your strategy not what the Bills intended, it makes no sense until after we have a sure-fire QB in place.
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3 minutes ago, jahbonas said:
Beane moved up to 12 not necessarily to get closer to the top of the draft - he moved because going from 21 to 12 represented the most value (2nd rd pick equivalent) he could acquire for Gordy Glenn. He may very well take the 12th pick and trade back into the 20s and get the extra 2nd rd pick for doing so and let the draft come to him. This draft is deep picking 22 & 28 and then 3 picks in round2 and then 2 in round 3 would be huge. Locking in 7 quality players for 4/5 years on cheap rookie contracts - no way you piss that away
Beane didnt trade a 2nd rd pick to move up to 12. He took the best value available to him while unloading Glenn and his big contract - very different.
No guarantee they will be good players. Our most recent 2nd round pick just released a naked blood video. Some of you have fallen in love with these draft picks and built up the prospects in you mind. The Patriots have 2 1st and 2 2nd rd picks and already have way more talent than us. So what will separate us in the post-Brady years? a couple extra picks? or hitting a home run with the QB?
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Why do you assume our draft picks will be elite players? The Pats have 2 1st and 2 nd rd picks. We need a QB to beat them for the post-brady years. Or we can just hope we draft better or our extra 3rd makes the difference for the next decades. I'm sick of hearing people overvalue these draft picks.
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What if MCCarron is good?
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First try a+ Kept trading down because Mayfield and Allen were both available. Would much rather have Mayfiled but Arizona took him. Got Allen at 26.
Your score is: 24158 (GRADE: A+)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 26 (ATL): Allen, Josh, QB, Wyoming (A+)
Round 1 Pick 28 (PITT): Evans, Rashaan, OLB/ILB, Alabama (B)
Round 2 Pick 4 (IND): Chark, DJ, WR, LSU (B)
Round 2 Pick 5 (IND): Crosby, Tyrell, OT, Oregon (A-)
Round 2 Pick 15 (ARI): Hernandez, Will, OG, Texas-El Paso (A)
Round 2 Pick 18 (DAL): Griffin, Shaquem, OLB, Central Florida (B+)
Round 2 Pick 21: Harrison, Ronnie, SS, Alabama (A)
Round 3 Pick 26 (ATL): Thompson, Trenton, DT, Georgia (A+)
Round 3 Pick 32: Fitts, Kylie, DE/OLB, Utah (A)
Round 4 Pick 21: Toliver II, Kevin, CB, LSU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 36 (N.E.): Allen, Brian, C, Michigan State (C)
Round 5 Pick 29: Scarbrough, Bo, RB, Alabama (A+)
Round 6 Pick 13: Bawden, Nick, FB, San Diego State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 31 (N.E.): Jackson, Justin, RB, Northwestern (A+)
Round 6 Pick 36 (N.E.): Ateman, Marcell, WR, Oklahoma State (A+) -
12 hours ago, LeGOATski said:
Mayfield at 12
He's gonna drop, folks.
While I would love this I would wonder why we didn’t trade up even a little to get him just to be sure no one else does. Or Miami at 11
27 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:Love Baker at 12 and keeping our picks!
Don’t get too attached to the picks.
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15 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:
TT averaged 187 yrds/game in 2017. Seems like AJ is a big upgrade and he should improve.
Not sure why so many don't want to give the guy a chance.
That article above says he averaged 184 starting for the bengals with better receivers
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Damn, didn't realize he played that well. Would you trade him for a 3rd?