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I didn’t catch the name of the coach, I know for sure it wasn’t Chuck Dickerson. It was the MTC guys, and they were talking about an earlier guest, who might have been on their show or another Xm show. for what it’s worth, I agree with the general premise. You need a core of very talented players, and can fill in around that core.

My list pretty well matches this The one player I missed was McGovern; somewhat ironic given where he went to school...

A former coach on Sirius radio was saying that you need 9 "blue chip" players to win a SuperBowl. Didnt really define what blue chip was, but lets say Pro Bowl calibre. So one of the top 4 in the conference. Who are the Bill 9? Definite: Allen, Cook, Dawkins, Taron Johnson, Probably: Shakir, Rouseau, Bernard, Benford, Maybe: Spencer Brown, Oliver, Milano, Kincaid, Von Thats 9, so I guess we can win this year. THoughts?

I’m not sure the source but it’s not correct. Bills haven’t played a tie game since 1972

Another pretty incredible stat is that Bills, as a team, have 8 turnovers all year. All by Josh; 6 INT, 2 fumbles. At least one of the INT bounced right off WR hands. So they have zero team fumbles (other than Josh) all year.

There is a really good article in The Athletic on this topic, linked in th other thread. Basically, Mahomes is a collective 32-0 when a group of 6 or 7 referees call the game. Given that Mahomes wins most of his games , the average record thinks be about 8-2 or 7-3. Mahomes is 5-4 when Clive Beckman is the ref. He’s the ref this wknd. It’s the best we could have asked for. Dorsnt mean Bills won’t be hit with bad calls, but the evidence suggests he doesn’t favor Mahomes. As opposed to Martin, KC ref this past wknd. Mahomes is 7-0 when Martin calls his games.

Hmmm.. you think that part time employees are just as good as full time? Just a hypothetical. All things being equal, would you rather have your quad jump CABG done by a full time heart surgeon? Or a surgeon who sells car insurance 5 days a week, and operates on 17 weekends in the fall? It is completely ludakris that the NFL is a multi billion dollar industry that operates with part time employees. Do the math. 8 man crews x 16 games = 128 employees. Pay them 500K each. That’s $60 million per year. About 0.3% of the NFL gyearly gross. Or the same as Deshaun Watsons guaranteed salary. SMH

complaining about a Sat -> Sun vs a Sun -> Sun just seems like whining at this point.

Fwiw, I thought that Benford was hurt before that play. He seemed to be moving slowly and favoring Left arm/shoulder

Mahomes is a combined 32-0 when he plays in games officiated by Martin, Rogers, Blake, Boger, Hill, Novak, or Eck. See Athletic article linked in original post.

This is a good question. In general, I think that takeaways are part skill, part coaching, and a good part luck. You cant control that aspect, so no matter how well you're coached, your takeaways may regress to the mean. So I dont think a defense can live off takeaways forever. Those of you who remember the superbowl years remember that was also a bend but dont break defense, that lived off turnovers, until they didnt. Offense is a little difference; I think offenese has more control over giveaways than defense has over takeaways. How you coach your RB/TE/WR (fun trivia question, how many giveaways do these three position groups have this season? Zero. Zilch. Nil. Thats not just luck), as well as play calls influence giveaways greatly. In most years, I'd say a defense that plays bend dont break and relies on turnovers wont win a championhsip. But this year we have the cheat code. Josh allen allows Bills to win both high scoring and low scoring games. Allen/Brady can pretty much turn the offense on at will. Of course, this comes with a risk of more turnovers, so Bills prefer a conservative offense. Makes sense. Go Bills!

There is an article on this in The Athletic. I'd encourage everyone to read it. I did some further analysis based on that article. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6074720/2025/01/20/patrick-mahomes-refs-penalties-chiefs/ The answer is yes, for some officials. Lets look at the details. Sando analyzed Mahomes' W-L record by referee. You'd expect the average record should be about 75%, given he wins 75% of games. I've picked out just a few Ref W-L record Clay Martin 7-0 (note: Martin was the ref on Saturday. hmm....) Brad Rogers 5-0 Boger 4-0 Shawn Hochuli 10-2 Cheffers 10-3 Clete Bakeman 6-5 Brad Allen 4-4 If we do a chi square analysis of Martin vs Bakeman or Allen, the outcome (P = 0.017 is highly significant). Obviously the head referee mostly affects games by late hit calls. The DPI and Hold calls come more from a back judge. But the referee can affect those calls as well, by guiding "principles" of what to call, and guiding discussions about flags. So me, I'm hoping to see Bakeman or Allen next Sunday. Anyone but the unholy triumvirate of Martin/Rogers/Boger.

That, boys and girls, is why you don’t chase points in the 3rd quarter

I forget. Did Fitz play tackle or guard when he was Bills OL?

Josh hits the wrong hole and still scores!!!