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Article in the National Review. You know, that bastion of liberal thought. Questioning the legality and constitutionality of the boat attacks. https://www-nationalreview-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nationalreview.com/2025/12/a-fair-accounting-of-pete-hegseths-role-in-the-caribbean-boat-strike/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1&amp_gsa=1#webview=1&cap=swipe “No matter its ill effects here at home, cocaine trafficking is not an act of war against the United States, and it is not terrorism. Under longstanding U.S. law, it is an activity that is deterred and punished via criminal prosecution in our courts. Drug boats are appropriately interdicted by boarding them on the high seas and seizing their cargo, not via missile strikes.”

Im taking a wild guess here, and saying that you dont work in health care. Because almost all (yes, there are a few quacks) physicians who have studied the Covid pandemic know that: 1) There is no Covid vaccine (singular). There are several covid vaccines (plural). They vary in efficacy, but phase 3 trails showed that at least 4 of them dramatically decreased the spread of serious (ie, requires hospitalization or death) Covid 19 disease. 2) All of the licensed vaccines are very safe. There were rare, sometimes serious side effects. But life isnt risk free. These vaccines are amongst the safest medical interventions (drugs, devices, vaccines) ever approved. Development of at least 4 effective vaccines in remarkable time (1 yr when all the best experts were thinking 3-5 years) was Trumps crowning achievement during his first term. It stuns me that the MAGA faithful dont recognize that fact.

Back on topic. Here is a thoughtful summary of the relevant issues. Delivered without once using the word “fu*ktard”. https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000010560634/are-us-boat-strikes-near-venezuela-legal.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20251204&instance_id=167462&nl=the-morning&regi_id=116970848&segment_id=211780&user_id=f478ac3a0b1d975ab3972d2c3836ae01

Pff… what do they know? And what do the Eagles know. A really knowledgeable poster said that Slay was washed, so I’m sticking with that.

I used to be pretty good at math. I’ll tackle that equation you listed. This is because the reliable media + Trump = lies upon lies. You’ve said there is no reliable media ; therefore, reliable media = 0 Substituting, we get 0 + Trump = lies upon lies Trump = lies upon lies.

Huh. Looks like your dear leader is saying you’re wrong. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ar-AA1REXql Direct quote from the OG. “ this is war” This is the problem when you throw your support to liars and grifters. You don’t know when they’re lying.

I refuse to click on links in this thread. But why is Trump napping?

Quote today from the dear leader “This is war”.

Huh. Looks like Rand Paul agrees with me. Blasting all those boats in the Caribbean won’t do a thing to prevent Fentanyl deaths. you go ahead and send out Kamela gifs. Those are really really clever. And funny too!

The one where he was injured in a hipdrop tackle that officials ignored

Let’s make one thing clear. While cocaine is a horrible, addictive drug, that indirectly destroys lives, cocaine overdose fatalities are relatively uncommon. Fentanyl, on the other hand, is a super potent opiate. About 50 times more potent than heroin. The vast majority of overdose deaths in the US are due to fentanyl. Almost all of the fentanyl in the US comes from Mexico or Asia. Very little come through the Caribbean. Trump admin has provided no proof that any of the blown up ships were transporting fentanyl. If they were transporting drugs, was almost surely cocaine. Yet Trump admin has conflated these two drugs. I’m not sure if they are just stupid, or whether they realize these boats don’t have fentanyl, but are trying to convince their followers that they are transporting fentanyl.

I disagree. This isnt a binary choice. It’s certainly possible, in fact likely, that Hegseth is both a liar AND incompetent.

Pretty damning article, with quotes from former Air Force secretary and Bush advisor. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-air-force-secretary-bradley-would-be-court-martialed-under-normal-circumstances/ar-AA1Rz50C?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=692f437604624609bda5fd717be7003d&ei=75 Since Wolfgang doesnt know how to click on links, I have some key quotes below: "Several other former U.S. government and military leaders have also dubbed the “double tap” attack a violation of the country’s law of war manual. " “Adm. Bradley was reported to have given an excuse, if you will, for the second engagement. That doesn’t hold water. These people were wounded. They were in the water. They were not a threat to anybody. Again, that’s a textbook example of a war crime,” Kendall said Monday. “You can‘t kill survivors who can no longer fight,” John Yoo, who served as an adviser in former President George W. Bush’s administration, said during a Monday appearance on CNN. “So, the admiral should not have obeyed the order that Secretary Hegseth gave. And even the soldiers who carried out the admiral‘s orders should not have obeyed.” "Leavitt alleged the strikes were justified after narcotrafficking groups were deemed foreign terrorist organizations, allowing for “lethal targeting in accordance with the laws of war.” Her comments contradict the U.S.’s war manual, which states “orders to fire upon the shipwrecked would be clearly illegal.”

The thought that Geneva convention only applies to combatant in uniform is wrong. And remember it’s the Trump administration that has characterized the boats kills as war actions.

Huh. So Wolfgang doesnt believe that the Geneva convention provides guidance on the humane prosecution of war.