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His arm wasn't anywhere close to Marino and Elway, and it faded badly in his early 30's. There is a reason he retired at 36. He was physically spent his last 2 seasons.

I have Kelly somewhere in the 25-30 range, which is obviously nothing to sneeze at. He is worthy of being in the HOF but was only truly elite for 2 seasons (1990 & 1991). He had some clutch moments but plenty of big game duds as well. The edge that Kelly had over almost all of his contemporaries was his physical toughness which is nearly unmatched at the qb position in NFL history.

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I disagree on ultimate responsibility. If multiple players are that far out of position on a easy to stop 3rd and forever play, that would seem to point as much to the defensive coaching as execution. This isn't the first time we've disagreed on the Bills 3rd and long failures. We just see it differently. You have been a pretty ardent Frazier defender over time it seems. And yes, I realize this does not absolve the failures of subsequent defensive coaches, or ultimately McDermott. Frazier did produce some good results here.

To me it appeared the entire defensive backfield and Edmunds were at or behind the line to gain of the 37 yard line. When the ball was dumped off to Duke Johnson there was literally no one on the screen around him. Should've never happened, but I would believe that alignment to be more on the coaching staff than the players.

It was on Cody Ford. Bad call, but even if it wasn't penalized Hauschka still would've had to kick 55 plus yards to win

The 3rd and 18 conversion Buffalo gave up in OT was emblematic of Leslie Frazier's entire tenure in Buffalo. Just Charmin soft

Great job getting him locked in at those terms. That contract could be a steal

Yeah he really grundled the ball with that post

I'd settle for another Mike Lodish or Gary Baldinger. Leif Larsen would be even better

So true, even in a year like the 2011 draft. Just look at the top 6 picks: Cam Newton, Von Miller, Marcell Dareus, A.J. Green, Patrick Peterson, Julio Jones. One of those is not like the others.

Maybe I misunderstood. Hopefully they will figure out something. Anyways, enough baseball talk for this forum. I really don't think the Hoecht/Ogunjobi situations, while embarrassing, take anything away from the Bills position this offseason. Relative to other contenders, the Bills have at least treaded water if not slightly improved whereas most other top teams have been a net negative so far. They have 10 picks and a great deal of flexibility in the draft. All is not lost. I honestly feel great about where the Bills are right at this moment.

I guess I'm confused what you're upset about then. You said you were unhappy about the Yanks before coming on this board. And Judge is great, but losing Soto and acquiring Bellinger and Goldschmidt is not equivalent. The difference this year COULD have been pitching, but they are screwed without Cole and Gil. Cashman all but admitted as much yesterday.

Take a deep breath man, at least as far as the Bills go. They will be fine. I'm a die hard Yanks fan too, and that situation is waaaaaaay more dire. Their season is effectively over before it even began.

Dane has played solid when called upon. We should and need to do better before the season, but no one should have a problem with this signing

I think Beane is clearly an above average GM. But he also does not deserve the "wizard" and "BBB" monikers that some people bestow on him. He is in the 8-12 range imo

Not sure I'd be looking to Houston for oline help. He must be terrible to have been a backup there

This is going to be a fun thread to revisit in August

Codrington is better. Shenault has virtually zero chance of making the team imo

He's not. Switches teams every year it seems. Dude was way overdrafted

I have been on record stating Dolac is well worth at least a 5th round pick, and these results are certainly going to improve his stock. The guy can flat out ball and deserves to be drafted

The comments from the tweet in the OP seem positive. Forrest apparently played well as a starter in 2022 (88 tackles, 4 picks) before falling out of favor due to scheme change after Rivera left. Still young at 25

Meh he's no Eli Ankou

Sure. Doesn't mean it's not a good upside gamble for the Bills

I mean sure it is a gamble per se, but when you look at the Bills predicament it is impossible for me to disapprove. A one year deal for a guy with the highest upside on the market, and if it doesn't work the Bills are not hamstrung long term. If it fails we're in the same place we were before. And none of this precludes us from drafting another edge in the first 3 rounds