Buffalo03
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Bills receivers: "So, I have to catch the ball to help us win? Let me just drop this then"
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Double the freaking TEs. It's all Lamar throws to
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Contain Lamar, double Mark Andrews, take your chance with Ingram and RBs. Is how it looks like they need to be stopped
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Just ride on "the metro" and let it "take your breath away"
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3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
Like I said.........he quarterbacked the team to 5 turnovers. He himself lost two fumbles and threw an interception. Against a defense that otherwise couldn't stop them in a very easy road venue. He played a sloppy game where he was egregiously careless with the football.
How careless was Jim Kelly with the football in 4 super bowls? 2TDs and 7INTs. Not to mention however many fumbles he had. According to your logic, Kelly Quarterbacked us to 3 turnovers in Superbowl 28 even though Thurman was responsible for 2 of them. Flutie wasn't the cause of all 5 turnovers so please, don't try to make it sound worse for him than he was. He only quaterbacked us to 3 turnovers that he was responsible for not the 5 total turnovers in the game
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1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
You spell checked me, no?
Flutie- joke of a qb. Trash.
His fans were casual fans that didn’t know a thing about football but liked Frosted Flakes and vertically challenged people doing things regular sized people do with ease. Feel good story. Great underdog story. He sucked. He was Trent Dilffer or Jim McMahon but just a bit worse.
Please check my spelling? Thx
You know what else I can remember? Is him taking us to the playoffs in 2 of his 3 years here. Only to get screwed over. He won games. 23-9 in 3 years. A pro bowler his first year with us along with comeback player of the year the same year. I would say I remember pretty well. I'm hardly a casual fan and I know everything or damn near everything about football. You wanna call him mediocre? Fine. Trash? I would say you're the one who knows nothing about football
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1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
Your memory is awful even if you can spell check
I didn't need to spell check. It's a pretty simple word
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11 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
I dislike this guy is in any way associated with the Bills.
He was the ominous beginning of a 2 decade decline in the franchise from a championship competitor to an impotent marketing dog and pony show with poor locker room culture and inferior talent at every position; especially his.
And if that’s not bad enough, he is considered some kind of superstar god in New England
You blame the start of our 17 year drought on Flutie? You do realize he was the last QB that got us to the playoffs before that happened, right? I would argue he was one of the last good things that happened before the decline of the franchise than say he was the reason it started.
3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:He was aweful. 3 or 4 times a game he would fire a simple swing pass into the turf. He completed just over half his passes. He sucked, but occasionally made some crazy Johnny manziel college play so the rank and file clamored for more.
Watch the movie Rudy... that is Doug Flutie.
First off, the correct spelling is "awful" not aweful.
Secondly, he didn't suck. Outside of Bledsoe, he was easily the 2nd best QB that we had by far since Kelly. He went 23-9 in his 32 starts as a Bill. He played fairly well in 98, fell off a bit in 99 and then played well gain in 2000. I don't know what your talking about throwing a ball into the turf in swing passes. He threw plenty of good balls from what I can remember
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7 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
If Flutie was such a winner why did he bounce around to do many teams in the CFL and NFL? Truly great ones tend to stick around on one team. Flutie didn't win in his first stint in NFL or when he left the Bills. "He won" because had a great D bail him out in 1999, when we needed him to make a play with the game on the line he literally dropped the ball in 1998. His myth was bigger than his play and his height. If want to say he was better than RJ I'll agree but never him call anything more than average maybe equal to Ryan Fitzpatrick.
He's a freaking hall of famer in the CFL. He was a 6 time MVP and 3 time Grey Cup winner. He is considered in Canada to be the greatest CFL player of all time. Are you an idiot? He didn't only win in 99 because he had a number 1 defense bailing him out. The same number 1 defense we had in 98 when Johnson started 0-3. The same defense we had minus Bruce Smith for the most part in 2000 which is the same season Rob Johnson only won 4 of 11 starts and Flutie went 4-1. It completely derails your argument. If your gonna say that it was the defense bailing him out then the same would stand for Johnson. However, Johnson was a terrible QB so it didn't matter what kind of defense he had. And to say that in that 3 year period that Flutie was never better than Fitzpatrick is insulting. Flutie could have won us a Super Bowl. Fitzpatrick never would have accomplished that. You seem to me to be just a stats guy and not looking at the bigger picture. Flutie in that 3 year span, especially in 98 and 2000 were much better than Fitzpatrick has ever been at any point in his career. If you just remember watching him in the games he made Bills games the most exciting of any Bills QB until Josh Allen came along. I can't think of any QB since Flutie that ever kept me on the edge of my seat like he did. I seriously can't believe he has to be defended to this degree. 23-9 as a starter but it was a number 1 defense and hall of famers that made very little impact in the final two years of their career that were the main reason for that record. Get the hell out of here
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23 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
A couple? I counted six. He wasn't the same player in 1999 as he was 1998. He a grand total of 20 TDs in 1999. It's ironic but you know what 1999 also was? The last season of Bruce, Andre and Thurman but yeah I give credit to an average QB leading us to the playoffs not three HOFers and top defense of the year. Sorry I can't see what you're seeing.
Again, without Bruce, Thurman and Andre in 2000 he still went 4-1 as a starter in 5 games started. He went 8-3 in 98 and 10-5 in 99. That's 23-9 in 3 seasons. He won. He was a good QB in the 3 seasons he was with us and we went 8-8 in 2000. We could have went to the playoffs that yeat had he had started the whole season without Bruce, Thurman and Andre. Thurman and Andre had very little to do with that 99 season anyway. Thurman only play like 4 games. Johnson went 4-7 as a starter that season. Flutie was a good QB with us. No matter how much you want to admit it. Outside of that Miami playoff game which I don't blame him for, Flutie never got a chance to get it done and when he played he was a winner
10 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:Quarterbacked the team to 5 turnovers in a playoff game against our biggest rival.
It happened.
Are you saying he turned the ball over 5 times in that game? No, he didn't. He threw a pick and fumbled at the end. He also threw a beautiful pass to Moulds the first play of the game that he fumbled. He also threw another TD to Moulds and one to Andre that was called down at the 1 when it was clear he was in. We got screwed on that play. Andre got ejected from that game because of that because he purposely bumped and official for getting screwed
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4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
Maybe because the Rams had the 4th best defense with regard to points against and Flutie was a turnover machine whereas McNair didn't make any in that Super Bowl and our running game didn't have anything close to Eddie George. I don't think we would have won it if somehow RJ were to play in this hypothetical game either for what it's worth.
Flutie was a turnover machine? He had a couple games where he threw multiple picks but you make it sound like he was turning the ball over all over the field. He threw 16 INTs. Tons of QBs today throw that like it's nothing. I don't know how you could have watched what he did in 98 and even the 5 games he started in 2000 where he went 4-1 as a starter and say that he wasn't very good. He was the last QB to take us to the playoffs back to back years before no other QB could do it for nearly 20 years. He didn't have a great season in 99 but without him, we don't get to the playoffs that year
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4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
Flutie averaged like 16 points a game the last 5 weeks or so, we might beat Tennessee but no way we beat the Rams with that kind of production.
RJ sucked at staying healthy. As a result he could never be a full time starter. Either way neither him or Flutie were good enough to get us past the first game of the playoffs but at least RJ left the field with us ahead of the Titans which you can't say about Flutie in his 0-2 NFL playoffs record (he lost with the 1986 Bears too with one of the leagues best defenses that season).
Rob Johnson couldn't be a full time starter because he sucked. He was outplayed by Flutie all 3 years they were both here together. And your post about how we couldn't beat the Rams because of 16 points. If you remember correctly the Rams vs Titans Super Bowl was 16-16 in the 4th quarter before Warner hit Isaac Bruce for the ling TD. The Rams only scored 23 points. We had the number 1 defense in the league. It was better than the Titans. If they could hold them to 16 until the last quarter and 23 points total, I'm not sure why we couldn't do the same
4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:They were both aweful. Picking the starter was Sophie’s choice
If you want to say Flutie was mediocre which I would still say is slightly wrong, then yes, I will agree with you. No person in their right mind would ever say that Flutie was awful. He was the last QB to take us to the playoffs for nearly 20 years
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1 minute ago, The Jokeman said:
Did Flutie turn the season around or land in a fortunate position? RJ had an awesome game against the Rams in Week 3 but we lost in the last few seconds in part because Flutie couldn't kill the clock. RJ then followed that up with a win in Week 4 with a win against the 49ers. I find it funny all the Flutie lovers always forget these things.
Rob Johnson sucked big time. That was clearly evident. You're pointing out a couple of decent games he had. It's amazing to me how all the Flutie haters seem to make Rob Johnson sound like he was a good QB. He was awful.
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6 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
The secret out he hadn't been juicing out with HGH all these years instead he's been eating these....
Flutie also had a critical interception before the half in that game. Yes, Doug played well but when he left the field we were losing in part cause of his fumble. For all his supporters that ignore this fact then they should also ignore all the times "he" won.
He's not freaking perfect. We also got screwed out of an Andre Reed TD in that game. Without Flutie we aren't even playing in that game. We started 0-3 and he turned the season around for us. We made the playoffs that year because of him. Yeah, he fumbled the last play of the game. That could have happened to Peyton Manning. Flutie was a good QB for us. He was a team guy, not a me guy. One other guy in this post talked about how he divided the locker room, how? He got screwed over in the Titans playoff game and I honestly think if he plays that game that we go to the Super Bowl with the number 1 defense and beat the Rams
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It looks like now I have no choice but to watch that game. Would have like the 49ers vs Saints game as the other game though
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17 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:
People always forget that he had his shot in the playoffs. He stumbled and fumbled the ball away in the closing seconds as Armstrong easily stripped him near the goal line. "Mr Clutch" that Flutie. That Miami team went on to lose the following week by 35 points.
Tennessee was a MUCH tougher game and the Bills should have won. It's easy to say Flutie could have scored 20 points, but that's the same argument people would make for Tyrod prior to the Jax game had we known the final score. Let's say someone like Fitz played and had a bad Fitz performance where he handed the ball to the Jags several times and the Bills lost 17-10. People would say Tyrod ball would lead to at least 17.
Flutie just wasn't that good, so it didn't matter all that much which QB played against Tennessee. Not only is Flutie the most overrated QB in Bills history, the "DECISION" is also the most overrated coaching(OWNER) move the franchise has ever made. Neither Flutie nor Johnson were any good. That number 1 defense Wade Phillips put together was the sole reason the team was in the playoffs.
So, that Miami game was Flutie's fault because he fumbled at the end? How about Eric Moulds's fumble on the first play of the game. It might not have come down to that at the last second if Moulds doesn't fumble. Seriously? I will never understand the Flutie hate
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Am I reading that right? Instead of 49ers vs Saints we are only getting Chargers vs Jaguars at 4pm on fox? Outside of the Chiefs vs Patriots game
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28 minutes ago, boco357 said:
Shorter week now too going to Foxboro for a Sat 4pm the week after now.
It's not a shorter week. It was a 6 day difference either way. It's only a 6 hour difference. No difference if it was a Monday night game and we were playing again on Sunday. It's the same amount of time
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I think one of the things that helps us in this game is that we have 10 days rest to prepare. The Ravens have to study two different opponents this week since they have a Thursday night game against the Jets in week 15. The fact that they have to study two different opponents takes a little bit of their focus off of our game. The fact that this game is at home as well is big
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14 hours ago, njbuff said:
I think this is so bush-league by NBC and the NFL.
Just because the Bills and Cowboys provided a ratings bonanza on Thanksgiving doesn't mean that NBC will get that same sort of deal at all.
Plus this really hinders the Bills in their preparation for the NE game the following week.
I don't like this at all from a lot of levels, but the Bills have to man up now as the Ravens come to town. Can only worry about the Ravens right now.
I keep seeing people saying this. How exactly does it interfere with our preparation for the Patriots? Is there really any difference if it was played Sunday at 1pm? It's literally a 7 hour difference. It's the same amount of time a team that plays on Monday night has to turn around and play a team on Sunday. No difference
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3 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:
Only Bills fans cry about primetime game
Do you really want to matter or not?
It's unreal, isn't it? First one in 12 years and people are complaining that it's not Sunday at 1pm like our last 7,000 games have been
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4 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:
I don’t think he was whining, just said he doesn’t like it. I’m the same, I would much rather 1 PM games. It is what it is at this point though, will be watching either way
Most people hate it mainly because they don't want to stay up late. It's one game. You should see some of the whiners on twitter saying the same thing. I'm glad they're happy watching the Cowboys five times a year on Sunday night football. I'm sick of it
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1 minute ago, WMDman said:
im definitely in the minority, but I hate this
So you have to stay up later. Big whoop. We haven't had a SNF game in 12 years and people are whining about it. Who cares? Good teams get primetime games. The better we get, the more it's gonna happen. Get used to it
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Wk#14 Bills vs Ravens 2nd Half Thread 1 pm ET on CBS
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Harbaugh is gonna challenge it