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I'm still telling you, Elam was the best player on our board when we made the pick. My argument this whole time has been, when you draft for need, to me that means reaching on guys you shouldn't take when you take them but do so because of need. Beane hasn't done that. Not every player taken in earlier round has been a need and if he has, it's still been the best player on the board at the time he made it. He wouldn't have taken Elam if he had a 3rd round grade on him

I said a lot of GMs do it in earlier rounds, not Beane specifically and I said if he does draft a need player in the early rounds, it's still the best player available. You only seem to refer to the last 2 drafts. I'm talking about everything he has done since taking over. Elam was the last player on the board with a first round grade. Can you tell me what the translation to that means?

I've already acknowledged 2021 was more of a need based drafted about 3 times already. Bringing it up again is completely pointless. Yes, Elam was a need but again, was the last player with a first round grade on their board. Which also means best player on their board at the time. And Tre' was still on the roster, just hurt and there was also a run on CBs going as well but Beane stated, he was the best player on their board. We are not going to see eye to eye on this so we might as well just stop talking about it

I'm not trying to split hairs. We didn't need those players. And if you think that someone that's ranked 83rd on their board is someone we would take at the 45th pick because "he's a need" you are seriously mistaken. You don't get good that way. We drafted for need pretty much all the time during the drought and it didn't do much of anything. If he drafts a need player, I guarantee that player is also the best on their board at the time and if it's not, he will pick another player that is

They were in 2021 but not in most drafts. We didn't need Harrison Phillips. We didn't need Ed Oliver, Singletary or Knox, we didn't need James Cook or Terrell Bernard. Outside of Allen, Edmunds and the picks in 2021, they are not usually our top picks

Never said he didn't. Every GM does but some do it in earlier rounds. But to me it's irrelevant if those need players are later round draft picks because there are no differences in bpa and need at that point is what I'm saying.

I know what I meant, I didn't explain it the right way. Have you never said something but maybe didn't say it the way you should or left things out? I never meant he never drafts for need, just that he is a more bpa drafting GM. Yes, Beane will draft for a need here and there. If those those need players were more early round picks, I would moreso agree. I did also acknowledge that 2021 was more of a need based draft

I never said he never drafts for need based on my definition of what drafting for need is, and the rounds that the players are taken in. But yes, every GM on the planet takes a need player here and there in the draft. But you don't get good by constantly taking need over bpa in early parts of drafts every year

Ok, let me say most rounds. Nit necessarily every round. It's just not a correct statement to say "he drafts for need" when 5 out of 7 rounds, he doesn't". If majority of rounds is best player available then he is not a "need drafting gm" for the most part

I refer drafting for need as doing it in every round, not one or 2 rounds especially later in drafts. I'm sure every gm as the draft goes on will take at least one guy they need. But you can't say he drafts for need if it's 1 or 2 rounds because drafting for need would imply he does it all rounds, especially if those needs are 6th and 7th round draft picks. Those picks are crap shoots anyway. That's a time of the draft where best player available won't matter as much

Yes, and? the argument was, that he doesn't draft for need.

I'm fully aware of this but look at all of his drafts combined. There are a lot of positions we didn't need that we drafted. Beane even said Kaiir was the last player on their board with a first round grade when they took him which just happened to be a need. 2021 was probably the draft he went after need the most. But we didn't need James Cook when we took him, we didn't need Terrell Bernard, we didn't need Shakir. We didn't need Singletary, or Knox or most of the other players that he has taken.

Yes, you can do that in mid to later rounds but I do believe even then, it's still more of a best player on their board thing. You don't get as good as we have gotten always just drafting for need. Was James Cook a need? I don't think so, but I do believe he was the highest player on their board

He drafts best player available and if that happens to be a need, he will trade up for the player. Just like he did with Elam

Nope. When it's the main game at 4:25, it doesn't get flexed

We can always be bad again and play every Sunday at 1 if it will make you happy. How does another playoff drought sound?

Why are they still doing zoom press conferences? I hate watching them

Ah, gotcha. I didn't know that. Pretty cool

That's what I was thinking. If he signed today, he could actually start on Sunday and probably be up to speed pretty quickly

I know TBD means Two Bills Drive but what is the AHOT part? Lol

Thanks

I wasn't at the game but watching it on TV, it seemed loud as hell. At that time, it was probably one of our more anticipated season/home openers ever considering what happened the year before

I did not know this. Thanks for posting

If I were the Cowboys, I would be calling up Fitz right now and seeing if he could be coaxed out of retirement. He's certainly better than anything they have