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He's not getting sacks. All of the amazing "pressures" don't mean nothing if you only get home 2.5 times from week 2 until week 18

And one guy talking about his "potential". Who talks about potential for a guy going into his 5th year? He should have already reached it. And what more do they see him doing? I personally don't see much more coming from him. There is a reason to this point the Bills have not signed him to an extension. That still could happen but I just don't see him being anything more than he already is They each have great games but then disappear for long stretches. How do you not see this?

enough of these "he's a good edge setter" "he's good at collapsing the pocket" "he's good at getting pressures but never gets many sacks" type of guys. The fact that everyone is ok with players like this is why we will never go anywhere. The guy got 3 sacks the first game of the season, he got 2 and half the rest of the year. What are you talking about that he is better than I give him credit for?

That's what I would say, he is Oliver except on the outside. He has good games and then games where he disappears. It seems like most people here are fine paying the dude $25 million a season, I don't see it

He's not even a elite defender. He's a "good" player. Not very good. As I put it in another comment, he's a good "edge setter". We need a pass rusher. Ok, so this is the Jerry Hughes argument then? The guy that everyone loved that was great at getting pressures but only ever got like 5 sacks a season? He isn't "very good". He is not a player you invest $20-$25 million a year in

An edge setter? So, he's a better Shaq Lawson? That's what Lawson was always considered, a guy that could "set the edge". That's not good enough. We NEED and elite pass rusher. If we have to give up Rousseau to get Garrett, I'm not even thinking twice. He can go "set the edge" in Cleveland

He is going into his 5th year. What has he shown to be REALLY good. Gove specifics The most sacks he has in a season in 4 years is 8. He disappears for multiple games at a time. What makes you think he's really good. He's average. A player should reach their potential by year 3 or 4 at the latest. He is at his Max at this point

To what? 20+ million a year? You think he is worth that?

Has he, though? I think he is a good player and I think what you have seen from him this season will be his max potential. He's going into year 5. You reach your potential long before that. He isn't THAT great

Garrett should just say he has naked pictures of 31 GMs and HCs not named Beane and McDermott and that he will expose them if not traded to Buffalo

Garrett said he wants to go to a contender. All of them are picking later in the first round. Cleveland won't have a choice in that aspect Those other teams didn't have Josh Allen. That's why they went 9-7. What kind of comparison is this?

I still think needing to play 4 years longer to get to be the all time sack leader doesn't make Bruce the best. It could be 1a and 1b with Bruce being 1b

Garrett is the best I have seen play since both Bruce and Reggie White and he is a guy that likes ball unlike Mario who just seemed like he was there for a paycheck. We will not make a mistake swinging for Garrett

Gotta go with Reggie White on that one. Bruce is 2nd. Bruce leads the league all time in sacks by 2 but played 4 seasons longer than Reggie. Reggie White accumulated 198 sacks in 15 seasons. Bruce got 200 in 19 seasons. Myles Garrett in my opinion is the best DE to play since both of these guys. So, I will swing for the fences for this guy

Oh ok. I didn't know it was a post about 200 page threads. I thought it was a post about guys we were rumored to get but didn't

Why was he listed in the list of players then?

Mario Williams actually played here

Don't care. Do it

I don't even think Rodgers will be there

I'm all for keeping Rousseau with Garrett. I am not in favor of keeping Rousseau over Garrett

So, leave one bad team that is years away to go win a Super Bowl with another bad team that's years away? Makes sense

Rousseau is not that great. Myles Garrett still has a lot of good years left. You make this move

He is requesting a trade to play with a contender which we are. Why wouldn't he want to come here? Also, I think Cleveland knows he wants to go to a contender so they shouldn't be expecting a top 5 pick back for him

Beane has to be in on this. Plain and simple

Yep. No more of the Bills having a long season and not making a Super Bowl until September. Can't wait