GrizzReaper

We lost because our defense forgot how to do the most basic thing in football.... Tackle. They really need to clean that BS up. It's been an issue all year... Idk of it's bc they're small fast guys or whatever but they have a tackling problem and I hope McDermott and Frazier get after them about it this week...

LOL get rid of Hughes... Yeah ok let's let our best pass rusher go bc we bring in Ziggy. Then we can talk about how Billsy of a move it was after.... Anyways I wouldn't mind them bringing Ansah in at all... Hughes could use some help especially with KW retired.

Doesn't matter I'm expecting a really bad outing for the offense... I don't think Anderson will finish the game behind our line. Hopefully Daboll just runs the ball all game and force feeds Shady and Ivory. But I'd say he gets about 100 yards in the air somehow... Not sure how.

Yeah if they can get some touches in... I liked what I saw them do on that game winning drive myself idk about these trade McCoy guys. I'll be furious... Yup my phone would get smashed I think.

Trade away our only good player on offense... Sounds Billsy.

Wow we had this high level business meeting weeks ago... Real slow on the trigger OBD. Well it's done got a vet... I can stop my whining now. Hopefully Allen makes the most of Anderson's experience. Can't see this addition as anything but good for our QB situation.

That would be nice... It briefs well. Get it done McBeane! Anything less will be considered a fail...

Aw hell nah... Not my boo! Seriously dude probably deserved to get shivved. Idk didn't read the article yet.

Well they pigeon holed themselves into having to start Allen out of neccessity... All we can do now is hope he learns and improves as the games go by. He's been bad but he has some good things going for him too. I'm just hoping the guy can keep learning and progressing and doesn't run into a wall. If he can improve with every game we should be in a good spot next season. He has some nice physical attributes he just has to get the mental stuff down now. Has to keep grinding every week to improve on whatever he can.

Someone had asked me how I knew the defense was going to get better as the season progressed in another thread... You have young guys learning more every game growing more as teammates every game. That's how I knew they would get better. Least that was my honest belief... Glad to see it coming to be. We are going to need that defense to play lights out with how the offense has sputtered along.

So we have a multi faceted problem here... WRs can't get open quickly so line has to block too long... QB is raw and can't determine where to throw the ball quick enough so he either a: holds the ball too long or b: rolls out right and takes a 30 yard sack after spinning like a top with no real sense of direction... Then we have guys that really the talent just doesn't seem to be there. The OL coach seems to be just as talentless as the guys he's trying to coach up... Then our only real light at the end of the tunnel is FA which looks bad and the draft which is a crap shoot... Not to mention we have to endure 13 more games of watching it... This is bad boys... Really bad. Hope our rookie doesn't get crippled or mentally shell shocked before the line improves.

So I watched our QB get obliterated on the regular this Sunday... I also have seen our running game be nearly non existent this season. Then I watch these press conferences and listen as McDermott and Daboll try their best not to throw their offensive line under the bus... They say things like yeah they had a rough game and Josh took sacks and it's partly his fault for holding the ball too long etc etc... I get it noone wants to just Chuck a guy under the bus. However I think they need to address the offensive line failures asap. Like be for real and stop dancing around it because it's an issue. The way I see it... If the coaches think these lineman have the talent to play at this level that they can be serviceable lineman in the NFL then the obvious culprit for their woes has to be Juan Castillo right? Or if it's the players just not possessing the talent to get it done then they need to try to bring in someone off a practice squad or something right? My worry is that I've watched LeSean McCoy fade away into nothing as a running back trying to run behind these guys. I've watched defenses blow straight past our line on numerous occasions this season. I watched Green Bay run a blitz up the same gap numerous times and watch the LB smash Allen Everytime he did it! So what is the issue? Is it these guys are seriously that bad and just not growing? Or is Castillo just utterly failing them as a coach? Either way I'm hoping something is done to address that aspect of the team. If that line can't protect that rookie QB throughout this season say Allen gets broken.... Boy o boy what a total and frustrating waste of a season will this be then? What happens if Allen gets injured because he gets sacked how 28th time next week and we have Peterman for x amount of games? How pissed will people be about that situation? So I'm just wondering what everyone else out there thinks about the state of our offensive line... The sacks, the lack of a run game, the abuse this rookie is taking behind these guys. Is it the players being that bad or is it the coach failing them? Personally I think it's the coach... I think whatever Castillo is coaching these guys up to do simply isn't working. I see them bumbling and stumbling, getting pushed into their QB/RB, I see defenders just flying through gaps umabated. It's horrible. What's the solution? Can it be fixed or patched up sometime this season if at least for the hopes of keeping Allen healthy for this entire "learning" season. Does anyone know if Castillo is historically bad? Has Shady just lost it as a RB or is it really the line to blame? Is it really just Josh Allen not reading what the defense is going to give him fast enough and holding the ball making them look so bad? Anyways just wondering how the rest of the fanbase feels about the situation and how if any way it can be remedied at this point. This was what I had replied in the Monday press thread... It's my original rant What I'm seeing is a HC try his damndest not to throw his o line under the bus... They are bad. Point blank period. So it's kind of comical to listen to him try to answer these questions in a way where he's trying spread the blame around a bit. I mean yeah I'm sure Allen being a rookie has something to do with the sacks and hitsbhes taken so far... but we can't keep trying to dance around the fact that this line is playing very poorly and inconsistent... Or maybe they're consistently bad idk. So if we do like McDermott says and start in the trenches and winning the line of scrimmage then who does that fall on the o line players and Juan Castillo. So if the coach believes his players are talented enough to at least be a serviceable offensive line then I think obviously the problem can be traced back to the coach. So fire the guy and get someone else... Either find a couple decent lineman in some dumpster out there if he believes it's the lack of player talent OR fire the fricken line coach and get a guy that can get these players to play up to the talent level he believes they possess.... We can't run the ball and the QB is under constant pressure. Something needs to be done sooner than later about the line. Keep messing around trotting either the same players or the line coach out there for the rest of this season and eventually that shiny new QB the GM worked so hard to acquire is going to get broken. You're also wasting the talent of 2 very good RBs in what may be their twilight years of football. Wasting what they could provide behind bad lineman or a bad line coach. Can this be traced to Castillo? This incompetent play is either his failure as a coach or these guys are really just bad players who don't belong as starters on an NFL roster. Personally I think it's more about the way they are being coached...

What I'm seeing is a HC try his damndest not to throw his o line under the bus... They are bad. Point blank period. So it's kind of comical to listen to him try to answer these questions in a way where he's trying spread the blame around a bit. I mean yeah I'm sure Allen being a rookie has something to do with the sacks and hitsbhes taken so far... but we can't keep trying to dance around the fact that this line is playing very poorly and inconsistent... Or maybe they're consistently bad idk. So if we do like McDermott says and start in the trenches and winning the line of scrimmage then who does that fall on the o line players and Juan Castillo. So if the coach believes his players are talented enough to at least be a serviceable offensive line then I think obviously the problem can be traced back to the coach. So fire the guy and get someone else... Either find a couple decent lineman in some dumpster out there if he believes it's the lack of player talent OR fire the fricken line coach and get a guy that can get these players to play up to the talent level he believes they possess.... We can't run the ball and the QB is under constant pressure. Something needs to be done sooner than later about the line. Keep messing around trotting either the same players or the line coach out there for the rest of this season and eventually that shiny new QB the GM worked so hard to acquire is going to get broken. You're also wasting the talent of 2 very good RBs in what may be their twilight years of football. Wasting what they could provide behind bad lineman or a bad line coach. Can this be traced to Castillo? This incompetent play is either his failure as a coach or these guys are really just bad players who don't belong as starters on an NFL roster. Personally I think it's more about the way they are being coached...

Shady can still run our retarded OC and turnstile OL arent doing the guy any favors. Personally I hope they trade him and he gets to ball out these final years he's wasting talent on this team. KB you'll be lucky to get that 7th from the Coleman deal back. He's probably the most dissapointing player this year behind Vontae Davis and before Zay Jones for me...

Eck... Green Bay had a few calls/no calls go their way this game. The helmet to helmet on that sack... KB took one straight to the face on that int where he was labeled. Idk if that comes into effect there though but boy he took a shot to the head. The pick crap they pulled that a couple times. Hughes getting flagrantly held and watching him flail his arms waiting for the flag and never getting one was another horrible officiating job. We got away with Edmunds sack on Rogers... Idk it was a bad game by the officiating crew for sure though. Not that it would've changed the outcome but I was surprised of how poorly this one was called.