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He didn't say Coleman was bad, he said Coleman was a bad pick for a 1st round as you can get those type of WR in later rounds.

Solid starters aren't what this team needs. They need elite game breakers and outside of Allen haven't had much luck drafting that. As @HappyDays mentioned, they put too much focus on culture and fit.

Are those 2 teams why going back to the 70s why only 3 coaches have won a Super Bowl after 5 seasons with their team?

Dunne noted that McDermott is entering his 9th year and only three coaches ever - Tom Landry, Hank Stram, Bill Cowher - have only won Super Bowls that deep into their tenure with an organization. "Even Andy Reid had to leave Philly and draft Mahomes before he got his first ring." That quote is the one that many dismiss a lot.

Dunne noted that McDermott is entering his 9th year and only three coaches ever - Tom Landry, Hank Stram, Bill Cowher - have only won Super Bowls that deep into their tenure with an organization. "Even Andy Reid had to leave Philly and draft Mahomes before he got his first ring." This quote is what I'm talking about. It's not made up numbers. That list is going back to the 70s. I do see things clearly and I do understand the other side of it. The clear belief that McDermott gives this team a chance to win the Super Bowl every season. You fire him there is no guarantee the next guy will continue that.

Because I can there is no guarantee that McDermott ever wins a Super Bowl. In fact the numbers are against him.

Again you dismiss the 4% odds of McDermott winning a Super Bowl after 5 seasons.

While it's a success and I will agree that there is a high probability they get worse with a coaching change. They also have history against them as only 4% of coaches since the 70s have won a Super Bowl after 5 seasons with their team.

History isn't on the Bills side in terms of coaches staying. Only 2 coaches since the 70s have won a Super Bowl after 5 seasons with a team.

I don't disagree with that. I'm not saying fire the guy tomorrow. At some point if he can't win the big one maybe it's time for a change. Allen only has so many years left in his prime. There is definitely a chance a new coach sets them back. It's also just as much of a chance a new coach pushes them over the hump.

I guess. I would agree if no other team does it but other teams have done it when the current coach doesn't get them over the hump. There's a reason only 2 coaches since the 70s has won a Super Bowl after being with the team for more than 5 seasons.

I agree, my point is many long time fans are enjoying the ride and are afraid a change means they go back to not being a Super Bowl contender or worse.

IMO that stems from a couple of things. One being if you follow the Sabres at all you have seen how well Pegula is with picking coaches there. Second, for many that have been a fan for a long time, this is the best stretch of winning they have ever had. Changing coaches and there is a possibility that this ends and they go back to missing the playoffs again

For one relying on turnovers isn't sustainable as that has some luck involved. Most agree they lost talent going into this season. I still don't necessarily agree that it's all due to talent that they don't get over the hump. A big one is the philosophy of rotating line men.

That's fair. Since they were this close this season I would trade multiple 1sts to get Garrett, sign Tee Higgins and re structure a bunch of contracts to make it work. Stop focusing so much on character in the draft. Make talent the number 1 priority.

I would want to do what the Rams did when they were close. Especially like this past season. When the Bills were one of the best teams, trade some 1sts and get some difference makers.

I would prefer them go to go all in and win one and take 3-5 years to rebuild

It's been " a couple calls or a couple of plays" for the last few seasons. IMO he's taken them as far as he can. I don't understand that notion that if McDermott left they all of a sudden go to being a drought team.

It's the same results. The one constant is the head coach.

You missed the part about it happening every season. It's been multiple seasons with the same result.

Whatever they are doing on defense hasn't changed the outcome each year. The defense continues to get lit up by good QB play each playoffs.

Why is this fanbase so anti diva? It's the way the players are now, especially a lot of the top talent is. Very few teams win with a team full of choir boys.

This here is why I don't see the Bills getting over the hump. The fans and front office are so anti diva that any time a high end player does this you want him gone

Your first point is why IMO they have never gotten over the hump. They are too focused on culture guys As far as the second point, you're right it's no guarantee of a Superbowl win but you do need playmakers to get you there. IMO is something the Bills lack. Look at the past few Super Bowl winners. All have playmakers on both sides of the ball.

This is the way the league's players do it now. Just accept it. It's not about staying on top year after year. It's about having top talent and doing what the Eagles and Rams did. I would trade multiple winning seasons for one Superbowl win.