Jrb1979

It's not necessarily about greed. With cable dying as more people cut the cord, network TV is not getting the money from cable like they they did in the past. Add in the younger audience is more inclined to tune into a game on streaming versus over the air.

They will walk away after this contract. These networks don't have the money like they used to. With what Netflix and Prime have done, the move is to put the games all on streaming only. There is more money in streaming than on network TV.

There is no guarantees that what building through the draft with smaller FA additions is enough to win. I'm good with another AFCCG and sucking knowing they took a chance to win. I all for adding Higgins by adding void years to his contact, and giving up the next 2 firsts to add Garrett.

The other thing is live sports is what drives streaming numbers, especially the ad tiers. I can see towards the end of the contract they move it to streaming only. IMO this is the last contract for the big networks. Going forward I see all games on Prime, Netflix and ESPN+

I am all for going all in this season. I don't care the cost. I would rather win a Super Bowl and be bad for multiple seasons after than be in the hunt and never win one.

This is just the beginning. In a few years the over the air package will be done. As much as it sucks, the consumer had a part in this change to streaming. It goes back to people cutting out cable. This these companies way of getting back that money.

I only chose Hill cause he was brought up.

IMO is exactly why they can't get over the hump and win a Super Bowl. They would rather take a guy who is a project, has a high ceiling but is very blue collar and comes to work everyday. Those guys will keep your team competitive most seasons but they rarely have the play making abilities that the Super Bowl winners have.

That's the kind of player I've talked about in drafting. Yes he had off field issues and it's not a great look at all, I'm drafting the guy cause of his talent. That's my biggest issue with this regime, they would never draft a guy like Hill due to his off field issues.

Bolded is the big question. I get that most don't want to change anything. While he may never win a Super Bowl, it's more fun winning the AFCE every season and having a chance to win. For me if they don't at least get back to the AFC championship game then I feel it's time to move on. The goal is to win a Super Bowl, not consistently be a playoff team

Pay the man. Push the money down the road. The goal is a Super Bowl.

We've been saying that since 13 seconds. It's less about the X's and O's and more about the Jimmies and Joe's. Pay that man

Start by looking at talent level first and culture second.

That's one time and they were 13 seconds away. The Eagles had a bunch of void years added on to contracts win now and the Rams traded a bunch of picks to win their Super Bowl. Both teams mortgaged their future to win now. I would rather win a Super Bowl, then be in the mix each year and never win one.

The Rams did it and won, The Bucs did and won and the Eagles just did it and won. Those are all recent winners.

Don't need to quit. IMO at some point you need to mortgage the future to get a chance to win now.

If it was me, I am signing Higgins, trading for Garrett and hoping to find some playmakers in the draft. To pay for those moves, I'm restructuring contracts and do like the Eagles did with void years. Hopefully that puts the team into winning a Super Bowl.

After reading that I'm starting to understand why you and others are reluctant to change much in regards to regime and team building. A Super Bowl win would be nice but having a winning team each season is better. I'm not saying you don't want a Super Bowl win. If you had your choice you would take a playoff team each season over a team that wins a Super Bowl but then goes back to a middle of the pack team. Basically back to the drought era

Reading through a bunch of these threads I feel the reason for the big difference of opinion is how you view the team. I'm on the side, that yes they have been very good to almost great every season. They are missing that blue chip talent to get them over the hump on both sides of the ball. IMO they need that dominant pass catcher regardless if its a WR or TE. They need a dominant Dline man, and either a true shutdown corner or an elite LB that makes plays. IMO they need to get at least 3-4 of those to win. I'm off the belief that they should go all in to either move up in the draft or trade picks to get that. Where many differ is there is no guarantee that works and that one of these seasons the Bills will make that play or get the call and get to the Super Bowl.

I'm not saying they are going to be bad players. I said they will most likely be very good players. McDermott is a very good coach for developing players. What I am saying is while they may end up really good like Milano and company, I don't see them getting to the level of an AL Brown, Myles Garrett of the world.

IMO the bolded is where the difference of opinion is. Many believe that while they need more high end talent, that making a play here or there will change the outcome. IMO teams that win, win cause high end talent make those plays.

Not really. These guys will most likely be good players for the Bills. Already you can say they won't be elite playmakers that this team desperately needs.

Not quite the extreme is Diggs but in the mold. You do find guys that make an impact day one that low in the draft. Look at Brian Thomas Jr.

That's where I disagree on the first and second round picks. Yes they need to hit on them better, but that's where the culture part comes in. If you have 2 players available to draft, one being elite and will have an impact day 1 but has an attitude. They 2nd player has a high ceiling and will come to work hard everyday and is a team player. They will almost always take that 2nd option as it fits the culture they have built. IMO they should always be taking the better player regardless of ego or attitude.

My answer is it depends on if their philosophy has changed in terms of drafting and signing players. If they continue with the mantra of culture and scheme fit and still don't win in 4 years then I move on. Now if they start taking BPA in the draft and look at talent first and worry about culture second. They don't win I keep giving them a chance. A good example would be, if there is 2 WRs in the draft that the Bills can draft. One is a blue chip can't miss elite but has a bit ego, and the other has a high ceiling, a good team player, they take the high ceiling, IMO it's time to move on. For me I'm take the can't miss guy 10 out of 10 times regardless of ego